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		<title>By: Scott Thong</title>
		<link>http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/09/29/liberal-definition-of-a-person/#comment-457627</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Thong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2013 10:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand your position, and as a realist I have to concur that cases of incest or rape must be given special consideration.

However, citing these special cases distracts from the reality that over 100,000 babies are aborted &lt;b&gt;every month&lt;/b&gt; in the USA alone... Over 125,000 &lt;b&gt;every day&lt;/b&gt; worldwide! How many of these are aborting pregnancies caused by rape? (Answer: Less than 1%)

Also, there is a difference between God&#039;s specific will (i.e. what He wants, which is always for our very best) and God&#039;s permissive will (i.e. allowing things to happen even if they are bad). But God did promise that in the end, anything that happens - whether good or bad - is for the final good, even if we can&#039;t see it or imagine how it possibly could be so.

&lt;i&gt;And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. - Romans 8:28&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks for your politeness by the way. It is becoming all too rare these days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your position, and as a realist I have to concur that cases of incest or rape must be given special consideration.</p>
<p>However, citing these special cases distracts from the reality that over 100,000 babies are aborted <b>every month</b> in the USA alone&#8230; Over 125,000 <b>every day</b> worldwide! How many of these are aborting pregnancies caused by rape? (Answer: Less than 1%)</p>
<p>Also, there is a difference between God&#8217;s specific will (i.e. what He wants, which is always for our very best) and God&#8217;s permissive will (i.e. allowing things to happen even if they are bad). But God did promise that in the end, anything that happens &#8211; whether good or bad &#8211; is for the final good, even if we can&#8217;t see it or imagine how it possibly could be so.</p>
<p><i>And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. &#8211; Romans 8:28</i></p>
<p>Thanks for your politeness by the way. It is becoming all too rare these days.</p>
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		<title>By: jane doe</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about in cases of incess or rape...i guess the conservative view is that was god will? My personal belief is gods as real as santa claus. But that is my opinion freind, and i shall not change it. still i WILL NOT  disrespect your opinions bc it does no good,  why can&#039;t u just let others live there life as they would, as i encourage u to hold tight to your belief and live YOUR life as u woul. telling ppl to kill themselves is not the way to get othefs on your side freind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about in cases of incess or rape&#8230;i guess the conservative view is that was god will? My personal belief is gods as real as santa claus. But that is my opinion freind, and i shall not change it. still i WILL NOT  disrespect your opinions bc it does no good,  why can&#8217;t u just let others live there life as they would, as i encourage u to hold tight to your belief and live YOUR life as u woul. telling ppl to kill themselves is not the way to get othefs on your side freind.</p>
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		<title>By: jane doe</title>
		<link>http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/09/29/liberal-definition-of-a-person/#comment-457414</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about in cases of incess or rape...i guess the conservative view is that was god will? My personal belief is gods as real as santa claus. i won&#039;t disrespect your opinions bc it does no good,  why can&#039;t u just let others live there life as they would. and i encourage u to hold tight to your belief and live YOUR life as u woul. telling ppl to kill themselves is not the way to vbed]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about in cases of incess or rape&#8230;i guess the conservative view is that was god will? My personal belief is gods as real as santa claus. i won&#8217;t disrespect your opinions bc it does no good,  why can&#8217;t u just let others live there life as they would. and i encourage u to hold tight to your belief and live YOUR life as u woul. telling ppl to kill themselves is not the way to vbed</p>
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		<title>By: Molly Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Molly Marie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 06:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Correction: some adults have more or less than 46 (Turner&#039;s syndrome, down syndrome, etc) but you get the point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: some adults have more or less than 46 (Turner&#8217;s syndrome, down syndrome, etc) but you get the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Molly Marie</title>
		<link>http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/09/29/liberal-definition-of-a-person/#comment-229354</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Molly Marie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 05:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You care only about the second trimester fetus. Anyone can care about that, it’s easy to do, but if you want real integrity, if you really stand for the sanctity of human life, you would grow a spine and make the destruction of human haploid cells a criminal offense.&quot;

To add to what Scott said earlier, this claim is ridiculous on a biological level. Gametic cells - that is, sperm and egg cells - are haploid cells. They contain 23 chromosomes each, half of YOUR DNA. Therefore, since it is YOUR DNA you can do whatever you want with it (having a menstrual cycle if you&#039;re female or bluntly, jacking off if you&#039;re a dude). But when an egg and sperm come together, the DNA of both haploid cells combine to form a diploid cell that now has 46 chromosomes, the same number as you will find in any living adult&#039;s DNA; and what&#039;s more, it is a COMPLETELY NEW and INDEPENDENT set of DNA - no longer YOUR DNA. This also happens to disprove the pro-choice argument &quot;My body, my choice&quot;. If it&#039;s not your DNA, it isn&#039;t your body.

Of course, I&#039;m only a high school student in AP Biology, but the above requires only a basic understanding of the subject.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You care only about the second trimester fetus. Anyone can care about that, it’s easy to do, but if you want real integrity, if you really stand for the sanctity of human life, you would grow a spine and make the destruction of human haploid cells a criminal offense.&#8221;</p>
<p>To add to what Scott said earlier, this claim is ridiculous on a biological level. Gametic cells &#8211; that is, sperm and egg cells &#8211; are haploid cells. They contain 23 chromosomes each, half of YOUR DNA. Therefore, since it is YOUR DNA you can do whatever you want with it (having a menstrual cycle if you&#8217;re female or bluntly, jacking off if you&#8217;re a dude). But when an egg and sperm come together, the DNA of both haploid cells combine to form a diploid cell that now has 46 chromosomes, the same number as you will find in any living adult&#8217;s DNA; and what&#8217;s more, it is a COMPLETELY NEW and INDEPENDENT set of DNA &#8211; no longer YOUR DNA. This also happens to disprove the pro-choice argument &#8220;My body, my choice&#8221;. If it&#8217;s not your DNA, it isn&#8217;t your body.</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m only a high school student in AP Biology, but the above requires only a basic understanding of the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Thong</title>
		<link>http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/09/29/liberal-definition-of-a-person/#comment-72971</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Thong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 04:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Meanwhile, the woman carring the said egg should NOT be considered a person. Her needs, her wishes, her well-being do not matter at all, according to right-wing wingnuts. She should simply STFU and bear as many babies as possible.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hey, is it us wingnuts who go around blathering about how great it is to have free sex with any number of guys who don&#039;t plan on marrying you, and can&#039;t be bothered to use a condom?

Speaking of well being, the actual wingnut position is that abortion should be ALLOWED... In extreme cases such as rape, incest or threat to the health and life of the mother.

Whereas the liberal position since Roe v. Wade is F*CK, GET PREGNANT, KILL BABY BECAUSE YOUR &#039;EMOTIONAL HEALTH&#039; IS THREATENED, REPEAT.

&lt;blockquote&gt;These attacks on women’s reproductive rights must stop. Women hae control over their bodies. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Like I said above: They have control, so WHY CAN&#039;T THEY USE THAT DAMN CONTRACEPTION if they don&#039;t want all the issues involved with abortion? It&#039;s not like rubbers aren&#039;t easilt available, in fact it&#039;s libs who get condoms handed out free in elementary schools.

Seriously, which is less of a hassle: Popping a pill or sliding on a rubber, or having your uterus invaded by toxic chemicals or sharp implements?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Meanwhile, the woman carring the said egg should NOT be considered a person. Her needs, her wishes, her well-being do not matter at all, according to right-wing wingnuts. She should simply STFU and bear as many babies as possible.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, is it us wingnuts who go around blathering about how great it is to have free sex with any number of guys who don&#8217;t plan on marrying you, and can&#8217;t be bothered to use a condom?</p>
<p>Speaking of well being, the actual wingnut position is that abortion should be ALLOWED&#8230; In extreme cases such as rape, incest or threat to the health and life of the mother.</p>
<p>Whereas the liberal position since Roe v. Wade is F*CK, GET PREGNANT, KILL BABY BECAUSE YOUR &#8216;EMOTIONAL HEALTH&#8217; IS THREATENED, REPEAT.</p>
<blockquote><p>These attacks on women’s reproductive rights must stop. Women hae control over their bodies. </p></blockquote>
<p>Like I said above: They have control, so WHY CAN&#8217;T THEY USE THAT DAMN CONTRACEPTION if they don&#8217;t want all the issues involved with abortion? It&#8217;s not like rubbers aren&#8217;t easilt available, in fact it&#8217;s libs who get condoms handed out free in elementary schools.</p>
<p>Seriously, which is less of a hassle: Popping a pill or sliding on a rubber, or having your uterus invaded by toxic chemicals or sharp implements?</p>
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		<title>By: Skulander</title>
		<link>http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/09/29/liberal-definition-of-a-person/#comment-72953</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The sad thing is, a fertilized egg should be considered fully a person.

Meanwhile, the woman carring the said egg should NOT be considered a person. Her needs, her wishes, her well-being do not matter at all, according to right-wing wingnuts. She should simply STFU and bear as many babies as possible.

These attacks on women&#039;s reproductive rights must stop. Women hae control over their bodies. They DO decide what happens to their pregnancy. And if they don&#039;t want to become a mother, it&#039;s their own choice. 90% of abortions occur during the 1st trimester. So early in the pregnancy, NO ONE has the moral authority to make decisions for a woman. NO one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad thing is, a fertilized egg should be considered fully a person.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the woman carring the said egg should NOT be considered a person. Her needs, her wishes, her well-being do not matter at all, according to right-wing wingnuts. She should simply STFU and bear as many babies as possible.</p>
<p>These attacks on women&#8217;s reproductive rights must stop. Women hae control over their bodies. They DO decide what happens to their pregnancy. And if they don&#8217;t want to become a mother, it&#8217;s their own choice. 90% of abortions occur during the 1st trimester. So early in the pregnancy, NO ONE has the moral authority to make decisions for a woman. NO one.</p>
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		<title>By: XXFRAGMENXX</title>
		<link>http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/09/29/liberal-definition-of-a-person/#comment-39890</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[U STUPID P*SSIES THEY DO DESERVE TO DIE GROW THE F*CK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U STUPID P*SSIES THEY DO DESERVE TO DIE GROW THE F*CK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt D</title>
		<link>http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/09/29/liberal-definition-of-a-person/#comment-37497</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 04:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P*N*S is beautiful!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P*N*S is beautiful!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Thong</title>
		<link>http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/09/29/liberal-definition-of-a-person/#comment-37063</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Thong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry pikif0u, as I reside in a non-liberal-degraded society, my primary school textbooks always made sure to emphasize the difference between humans and animals, despite the similar physiological makeup.

But hey - if humans = animals, let&#039;s all have hot doggie sex!

http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/06/26/fascism-and-bestiality-atheists-please-tell-me-why-i-am-morally-wrong/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry pikif0u, as I reside in a non-liberal-degraded society, my primary school textbooks always made sure to emphasize the difference between humans and animals, despite the similar physiological makeup.</p>
<p>But hey &#8211; if humans = animals, let&#8217;s all have hot doggie sex!</p>
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