Separation of Church and Hate

By Scott Thong

…Is what that wire fence is doing.

Anti Prop 8 Homosexuals Hate at Mormons

Via Moonbattery – Who Are the Haters?.

(As for the leftmost signboard, as I’ve noticed often, liberals only ever give a care about Christian values and the Bible when they want Christians to back down out of an argument. Make up your minds, people – do you want us to adhere to Biblically-based Christian values, or not?)

See my post Traditional Values Still Fighting On Even Under an Obama Presidency for a link collection on the rioting, harassment and violence being commited by homosexuals and their supporters (gay but unhappy!).

Or read excerpts of this article by Michelle Malkin, with links to the news reports at her site:

The insane rage of the same-sex marriage mob

The mob of left-wing, same-sex marriage activists incensed at their defeat in California. Voters there approved a traditional marriage initiative, Proposition 8, by 52-48.

Instead of introspection and self-criticism, however, the sore losers who opposed Prop. 8 have responded with threats, fists, and blacklists.

That’s right. Activists have published an “Anti-Gay Black List” of Prop. 8 donors on the Internet.

A Los Angeles restaurant whose manager made a small donation to the Prop. 8 campaign has been besieged nightly by hordes of protesters who have disrupted the business, intimidated patrons, and brought employees there to tears. In fear for their jobs and their lives, workers at El Coyote Mexican Café pooled together $500 to pay off the bullies.

Over the past two weeks, anti-Prop. 8 organizers have targeted Mormon, Catholic, and evangelical churches. Sentiments like this one, found on the anti-Prop.8 website “JoeMyGod,” are common across the left-wing blogosphere: “Burn their f—ing churches to the ground, and then tax the charred timbers.” Thousands of gay-rights demonstrators stood in front of the Mormon temple in Los Angeles shouting “Mormon scum.” The Mormon headquarters in Salt Lake City received threatening letters containing an unidentified powder. Religious-bashing protesters filled with hate decried the “hate” at Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church in Orange County, Calif. Vandals defaced the Calvary Chapel in Chino Hills, Calif., because church members had collected Prop. 8 petitions. One worshiper’s car was keyed with the slogans “Gay sex is love” and “SEX;” another car’s antenna and windshield wipers were broken.

In Carlsbad, Calif., a man was charged with punching his elderly neighbors over their pro-Prop. 8 signs. In Palm Springs, a videographer filmed unhinged anti-Prop. 8 marchers who yanked a large cross from the hands of 69-year-old Phyllis Burgess and stomped on it.

In San Francisco, Christians evangelizing in the Castro district needed police protection after the same-sex marriage mob got physical and hounded them off the streets.

Corporate honchos, church leaders, and small donors alike are in the same-sex marriage mob’s crosshairs, all unfairly demonized as hate-filled bigots by bona fite hate-filled bigots who have abandoned decency in pursuit of “equal rights.”

With her syndicated column on the subject here.

Chuck Norris summarizes here, pointing out how Obama detractors haven’t similarly rioted, and how the militant gays have NOT attacked Black churches even though 70% of Blacks voted for Proposition 8.

Andre Breitbart challenges them to protest at a mosque.

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21 Responses to “Separation of Church and Hate”

  1. Zack R Says:

    There’s no hate like that of people who see themselves as Victims, and thanks to the Democrats and the whole “gay=sainted-minority” zeitgeist, plenty of angry self-righteous victims are being whipped up regularly. Best thing would be for the Gays to go to war against the Blacks and Latinos who so clearly do not support gay marriage. At the very least the clash would be rife with fabulously designed troop uniforms.

  2. Objective Scrutator Says:

    Homosexuals are a national security threat. Allowing them to freely walk around our streets is akin to allowing an earthquake to destroy the buildings on Wall Street. A moral and just government simply does not allow sinners to freely roam the streets. Hopefully, the Republican Congress, which will have a 200 vote advantage in 2010 over the Democrats, will be able to forcibly rehabilitate the Sodomites in clinics specifically designed for them.

    “Best thing would be for the Gays to go to war against the Blacks and Latinos who so clearly do not support gay marriage. ”

    Every demographic except liberals, Democrats, and idiot man-children under 25 supports protecting marriage. Personally, I want to see the homosexuals take on the labor unions for the sake of earning Obama Osama’s attention. Maybe both groups will just implode, and American can finally continue as normal.

  3. simon thong Says:

    Victims? Not gays in the USA. Once they were in the closet. Like Old Mother Hubbard who lived in a Cupboard. Now, they are out in the world, PROUD of what is still regarded by the majority as perversion. Gay is right. Straight is wrong. The world has gone topsy-turvy.

  4. tsfiles Says:

    “Liberals only ever give a care about Christian values and the Bible when they want Christians to back down out of an argument. ”

    Great observation. And true.

  5. wits0 Says:

    No Simon, gays are not victims in the USA. They, however, evolve into ugly usurpers of traditional marriage when they wilfully morphed into anti-Pop 8 in the name of “rights”.

    Why can’t they just form their own terms of liason instead of stealing? This makes them ugly beyond wasteful regards. Prop 8 is just and proper. Even thinking non Christians are likely to agree.

  6. simon thong Says:

    You’re right, witsO; gays stopped being victims long ago. They victimize the rest of us who are straight. Normal marriages, though fraught with problems, are still sought after. The man-woman relationship brings purpose, meaning and satisfaction. It is ENVY of what we have, and which they cannot find in their man-man or woman-woman relationships, that compels them to steal from us. Once, they borrowed from us: drag queens, remember, who are perversions of graceful and lovely young women.And if they can’t have what we have, neither should we, so they turn violent and destructive. ENVY is a terrible emotion. Btw, the rationale for being gay is emotion, not reason. “I feel; therefore, it is right.”

  7. wits0 Says:

    Note: Exposed: The Myth That Psychiatry Has Proven That Homosexual Behavior Is Normal

    “In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) removed homosexuality as a mental disorder from the APA’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual Of Mental Disorders (DSM-II).

    This decision was a significant victory for homosexual activists, and they have continued to claim that the APA based their decision on new scientific discoveries that proved that homosexual behavior is normal and should be affirmed in our culture…… ”
    Go to : http://www.traditionalvalues.org/urban/eleven.php
    ———

    Simon: “I feel; therefore, it is right.”

    Which is little different from saying that. “I can indulge in anything and that makes it right” because of personal choice within a tolerant society. In one fell swoop, they want to seize all the rights and protections that has been so long accorded normal marriage. This is nonsense and deviously unearned.

    Even normal sex is not actually such a vital need as food and shelter. What more kinky “sex” because of indulgent and weird taste?

  8. simon thong Says:

    The prayer of every normal mother and father today, “Please Lord, may my son be a MAN, and my daughter a woman!” We live in fear that someone may turn out to be gay.

  9. matkilat Says:

    yeah well this is wrong, but I notice you didn’t mention the equally disgusting behavior of xtian fundamentalists against gays.

    “God Hates Fags” demonstrations at funerals anyone?

    John Haggee making blatantly homophobic statements, including “The AntiChrist is Gay”?

    Obviously its not as militant as some of these gay-rights nutters, but lets not deny that christian fundamentalists are not blameless in this issue either.

  10. Scott Thong Says:

    Doubtless there are some fundamentalist fringes who go a bit too far and veere into the realm of impoliteness.

    But do update me when Christian fundamentalists start organizing state-wide boycotts, protests, harassment and vandalism of organizations, individuals and businesses, and bashing young women on the head with books, molesting young men in public, beating up old ladies, spray painting property, throwing condoms during family gatherings, and attacking Mormon temples because of differing beliefs.

  11. matkilat Says:

    Well if you compare it NOW and only in the US, then we can agree, militant gays are more violent.

    However, go back a few decades and you will see the statistics are skewed in the other direction where gays faced ostracism and even physical violence by christian fundamentalists, especially in the South.

    So there is a track record of perpetuating a climate of hostility, which was initiated by the church, and still continued by a lot of the more extreme (but also somehow popular!) ministers, Haggee being a prime example, but also Dobson and the now-disgraced Ted Haggard.

    Of course, it doesn’t make the current actions of the militants right.

    These people should be dealt with harshly, however, looks like the PC brigade is far too strong in the US, where every action against a minority group – no matter how valid, is viewed through the lense of “racism” or “discrimination”.

    But hey, look on the bright side. At least you are better than the UK! And if you get too upset with the gays, you can always move to Russia. There, they still view gays with the traditional Bible-belt hostility.

  12. Scott Thong Says:

    So where do peaceable Christians move to when Britain, the EU, and the US have made Christianity practically illegal (in favour of Islam, atheism, liberalism et al)? China I suppose…

    Right on the PC brigade. Note how no Black churches have been targeted for harassment, even though a supermajority of Blacks voted for Proposition 8.

  13. Juan Rodriguez Says:

    Um, er,
    don’t think it’d be a good idea for militant gays to attack a black church.

    Likely get their #$%! kicked out of them.

    I’m sure militant gays know that already.

  14. HoosierArmyMom Says:

    You know, if a preacher preaches what the Bible states about homosexuality, then he is be an abuser??? Is that violence?? I don’t think Christians, or at least Christians who get it, have ever laid a finger on gay people. We don’t protest them at Gay Bars or Bathhouses. I think you will find those who “hate gays” and beat them up or murder them are definitely NOT Christian by the example set by Christ. I get sick of Gays pointing fingers at those who preach the Bible as being “homophobic and abusers of the gay community”. Geez… what a bunch of losers.

  15. simon thong Says:

    The tyranny of the minority is what is common in the West, and the violence of Gays is an extreme but not a unique phenomenon of this.

  16. Hmmmmm Says:

    you are being too judgemental, full of prejudice, presumptious generalisation, simon thong, you haven’t even experienced life in the west as it really is nor have you come known any of them on personal level and you are already that vindictive. Sympathy is what I have for you. While others will go an eye for an eye being verbally abusive and patronising on both sides, I am not going stoop to that level. I feel sorry for you. May you not show condescence and disgust but filled with empathy and sympathy. Bless you.

  17. simon thong Says:

    How would you know that I’ve not travelled or lived in the west? Presumptious, aren’t you, Hmmmmm? People in glass houses…

  18. simon thong Says:

    Anyway, loosen up, Hmmmmm. Don’t feel superior, or insulted. Hold onto your emotions. It’s a blog, a place for discussion, for speaking your mind. Even bigots are allowed though who the bigots are is really unimportant. Show some “empathy and sympathy”, to put it in your own words. Come down from your pedestal and tell us what you think. Don’t be patronising.

  19. Hmmmmm Says:

    Am I being patronising? I am just telling you the a very straighforward opinion in the hope that you will realise your error ways. You may go for overseas holiday, course what-so-ever does not mean you understand foreign culture. An anology, a school kid may learn nothing much from school if he is just there to play rather than the willingness to learn ;)

    Don’t worry I am not being emotional, I am being straighforward with my opinion just like you are expressing yourself here. You are blunt with your expressions but I doubt you are angry, so am I. Are you seeing your own reflection? Do you like it or hate it? :D

    Of course you can champion freedom of expression, but you have to also understand the more freedom you have, the more responsibilites you should bear, the more the consequences you have to face. If you can’t face consequences you do not like, then you are irresponsible. Again I am not angry, I am just stating fact, harsh fact which to some people who are not used to being rebutted, might seem like an emotional statement. :D

  20. Hmmmmmmm Says:

    Am I being patronising? I am just telling you the a very straighforward opinion in the hope that you will realise your error ways. You may go for overseas holiday, course what-so-ever does not mean you understand foreign culture. An anology, a school kid may learn nothing much from school if he is just there to play rather than the willingness to learn

    Don’t worry I am not being emotional, I am being straighforward with my opinion just like you are expressing yourself here. You are blunt with your expressions but I doubt you are angry, so am I. Are you seeing your own reflection? Do you like it or hate it?

    Of course you can champion freedom of expression, but you have to also understand the more freedom you have, the more responsibilites you should bear, the more the consequences you have to face. If you can’t face consequences you do not like, then you are irresponsible. Again I am not angry, I am just stating fact, harsh fact which to some people who are not used to being rebutted, might seem like an emotional statement.

  21. simon thong Says:

    You may want to keep away from emotional words to reduce misunderstanding; can you at least control that much of yourself? I look in the mirror and like what I see. Enough people like what they see, too.

    My question is, “When do you actually understand a foreign culture?” Only if I agree with what you say, is the import of your argument. Can’t I understand your culture (if it is what we are talking about) and still disagree with it? Even within a culture, many don’t understand a major chunk of it, for no one experiences the whole of one’s culture. And among those who understand it, can’t they reject various aspects of it without being accused of not understanding it? Understanding may equal acceptance in your books, but not in mine.

    By the way, a school kid may not learn what the teachers want, but there are aspects of learning that he picks up, such as the hypocrisy of teachers (do what I say, not what I do), their pettiness (I’ll fail you coz you didn’t hand in your homework), their envy (“Why should Mrs Smith go off earlier when we have to stay till 5?), and their prejudice (clean-faced boys in smart uniforms get let off for rule-breaking), to mention a few.

    As for freedom of expression, it is always within limits; you don’t have to major in any -ology to know that. Walk over to your neighbour and tell him he’s a toad, and you’ll soon find that your freedom of expression ends at the impact of his bunched fist.

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