Archive for November 25th, 2007

Egyptian Woman Sentenced to 3 Years Jail For Illegally Stating She is Christian

November 25, 07

A warning of what things might become like if PAS and like-minded ilk become more influential in Malaysia? See bottom for links regarding that.

Shadia Nagui Ibrahim was charged with fraud for writing her religion as Christian on her marriage certificate in 1982.

It was considered fraud because in 1962, her father left the home and converted to Islam when she was two years old. This automatically made Shadia Muslim as well.

Although the father reconciled with Shadia’s mother and re-converted to Christianity in 1965, he reportedly got someone to forge his papers to state his religion as Christianity.

Unknowingly, Shadia thus stated her religion as Christianity when she got married – but officially she is Muslim, and therefore committed fraud by stating her heart’s religion.

It is also illegal for a Muslim woman to marry a Christian man (hmm, so familiar sounding…).


From BosNewsLife:

NEWS ALERT: Egypt Woman Sentenced To Three Years For “Illegally” Stating Christianity

Friday, 23 November 2007
By BosNewsLife News Center

Being a Christian in Egypt can be dangerous, rights groups say.

Via BBC News  CAIRO, EGYPT (BosNewsLife)– An Egyptian Christian woman remained behind bars Friday, November 23, after she was sentenced to three years imprisonment for “illegally” stating she is a Christian, BosNewsLife monitored.
Shadia Nagui Ibrahim, 47, was charged with “fraud” because her father’s brief conversion to Islam 45 years ago made her legally a Muslim. However her official papers claim she is Christian, said her lawyer Michael Maurice  

In a statement released by French news agency AFP he said she wrote Christianity as her religion on her marriage certificate in 1982, because she was “unaware” that her father’s conversion to Islam two decades earlier had made her “a Muslim”.

Her father, Nagui Ibrahim, left home in 1962 when daughter Shadia was two years old, converted to Islam and took on the Muslim name Mustafa. Three years later he reconciled with his wife and re-converted to Christianity. In the process, he reportedly got someone to forge his documents back to say he was Christian.


State reluctance to allow citizens to put their religion of choice on national identity cards means many seek forged documents that can result in criminal prosecution, New York-based Human Rights Watch said in a report earlier this month.

In 1996, the man who forged Ibrahim’s documents was reportedly detained for falsifying dozens of documents and confessed to changing Ibrahim’s papers. Authorities detained Ibrahim and also informed his daughter that on paper, Ibrahim was still a Muslim and therefore so was she, AFP said.

Children in Egypt automatically take their father’s religion. Under Egyptian law it is also illegal for a Muslim woman to marry a Christian man, analysts say. Shadia Nagui Ibrahim was charged with “providing false information on official documents” for stating she was Christian on her marriage certificate. After a lengthy trial, she was sentenced to three years in absentia in 2000 but the case was subsequently dropped.


She was detained again in August this year and sentenced to three years on Wednesday, November 21,  after just one brief court session, her lawyer told AFP. It comes amid growing pressure on Egypt’s minority Christians, who comprise about 10 percent of the population, rights groups say.

Egyptian security forces and authorities have been accused by rights groups of not doing enough to halt Islamic extremism. However this week, Egyptian police arrested three Egyptian Muslims accused of killing two Christians, security sources said.

Reuters news agency quoted officials as saying police arrested the three in Kosheh in southern Egypt and charged them with killing Wasfy Sadeq Ishak, 45, and his nephew Karam Philippe Androus, 18, in October.

The motives of the killings were not immediately clear, but disputes have often been related to land, conversions and marriage. (With BosNewsLife Senior Special Correspondent Eric Leijenaar).


Another Egyptian woman, beaten black and blue then arrested for converting

Saudi Arabia: Gang Rape Victim Punished With 200 Lashes and Jail (If you thought Egypt has unfair and strict laws…)

Christians Are The Most Persecuted People of All (More accounts of anti-Christian persecution around the world)

Follow Christ Today Lucky Draw Contest! (More patterns of anti-Christian attitudes, including some very close to home)

Malaysian Indian Lawyer Sues Britain Over Malaysia’s Social Contract (Likely done to highlight the social inequalities in Malaysia – but as the laywers found out, questioning the status quo can get you arrested for sedition)

Lina Joy Loses Her Appeal For Religious Freedom (Lina Joy – on paper a Muslim, but in her heart a Christian – yet not allowed to convert and marry a Christian man)

The Star: Man Switched at Birth Reunited With Biological Parents and The Star: Switched At Birth Follow Up – The Chance to Choose Own Religion? (He is Chinese but got switched at birth, growing up a Malay Muslim. Can he thus choose to convert out of Islam, since he never chose to be a Muslim? Especially when the vast majority of Muslims were such from birth and never chose to be Muslim either…)

The Parable of Kampong Kayukayu (A what if scenario: How would Muslims if people were not allowed to convert to Islam, instead of vice versa?)

Baptism SMS Case in My Ipoh and Datuk Azhar Mansor Updates (Unture rumours of Muslim children being converted to Christianity leads to near riot at church, and the grilling of Datuk Azhar Mansor based on that rumour)

Bobjots: Orang Asli Church Demolishment – A Chronological Narrative (Malaysian offiicials tear down church on a whim)

Veiling the Uncovered Meat (PAS’s very own Nik Aziz’s perception of an ideal world where wimmen are wrapped up in opaque curtains)

More Sexist MPs – Women’s Dressing is to Blame For Rape (Malaysian parliamentarians who have the same mindset as Nik Aziz)

Jasin MP: Sexism, Lies and YouTube (The infamous ‘bocor’ / leaking remark aimed at female biological functions)

Chastity Belts: The ‘Best’ Way to Avert Sexual Predators and The Star Opinion: Syabas to Chastity Belt (More on how much some religious leaders in Malaysia show love and concern for their women)

Youtube Video Warning For Namewee (Negarakuku) (Extremist jihadi over-reaction to sarcastic media reaches Malaysia)

IKIM: Forcing Religion on People is Unreasonable, The Quran on Apostasy, and The Malaysian Constitution on Apostasy (Three articles from IKIM on how forcing people to remain in Islam in not right)

Apostasy, Treason and North Korea (My observation that forcing religion on people at the threat of imprisonment or death is comparable to what godless atheist Communist states do)

Perak Religious Department to Continue Raids on HotelsKhalwat Raids by Order Only (in Kelantan), Kota Baru: Cover Up Or ElseTerengganu Turns to ‘Mat Skoding’, My Letter About Mat Skoding… Sigh…, Mat Skoding Updates (What did I say about Communist states? KGB, SS, Black Ops teams spying on the activities of citizens… Positively fascist!)

The Lidless Eye-S-A (Humour on Malaysia’s detention-without-trial Internal Security Act)

Wikipedia: Internal Security Act (Malaysia) (Dead seriousness on Malaysia’s detention-without-trial Internal Security Act)

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