President Barack Obama – Four More Years! (Plus Cartoons)


…Not of Bush (in the form of a McCain Presidency as some might say).

Four more years of me having a rockin’ time mocking Obama!

Although the Dow isn’t exactly giggling at the antics… 500 point drop at Obama’s win.

Barack Hussein Obama, welcome to at least four years the Bush treatment!

As Ann Coulter puts it:

For now, we have a new president-elect. In the spirit of reaching across the aisle, we owe it to the Democrats to show their president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that they have shown our recent Republican president.

(Unless, of course, the new President makes it illegal to criticize him and orders anti-Obama blogs to be shut down.

Jamie says sarcastically: Highly auspicious time for Obama to become 44th President on the 4th. See here for background.

Coverage, related links and cartoons follow below.

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From my favourite and other blogs:

Watch for updates – It’s a given that the main liberal blogs will be full of swearing and deragatory remarks even though Obama won.

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From me – what to expect from a President Obama:

  • Who Will Obama Put Heavier Taxes On? – $250,000 a year? $200,000? $150,000? Nope, even lower! And also skyrocketing energy costs and bankrupted coal industry as Obama promised.

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Cartoons, yay! Four years’ worth of excellent material for mockery images in store! Click for full size.

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From Day by Day:

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Following from The Ryskind Sketchbook:

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Following from Diversity Lane:

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Immediately following from Traditional Values Still Fighting On Even Under an Obama Presidency:

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Following from Ryskind Sketchbook:

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Following from Day by Day:

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Following from Day by Day:

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Following from Baloo’s Cartoons:

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Following from Diversity Lane:

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From Ballo’s Cartoons:

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94 Responses to “President Barack Obama – Four More Years! (Plus Cartoons)”

  1. matkilat Says:

    its the republicans fault for running a stupid campaign. and picking a retarded redneck like palin for VP.

    Giuliani would have had a much better chance of winning than McCain.

  2. Scott Thong Says:

    Actually, Sarah Palin is probably the only reason any real Conservative bothered to show up and vote for McCain.

    Examples:

    THOUSANDS Line Up For Palin Debate Rally in St. Louis

    Monster Rally Greets Palin Like a Super Bowl Champ

    Sarah Palin Finishes Saturday with Coliseum Rally

    PALIN DRAWS 60000 At Florida Rally!

    “Show Me” Palinmania – There was such a high demand that Palin’s “Road to Victory” rally was moved instead to the parking lot of Bass Pro Shops in Springfield.

  3. matkilat Says:

    And………..wow your source is a blog.

    In a nation with a free media like the US, thats seriously underwhelming evidence. And don’t give me the popcorn “The media loves and worships Obama and hates Republicans” line – there’s always the rightwing Fox News, or the balanced CNN.

    Just face it, Palin made far too many faux pas and convinced those on the fence that McCain was a poor judge of character.

    Similar to how our own government shines the spotlight on nutcases or clueless idiots from Umno Youth like Khairy or Hishamuddin. They may draw the Ketuanan Melayu crowd by the hundreds or thousands, but only convince the general public that they are unelectable. In Malaysia, though, unlike the US, they can cheat to save their skin.

  4. Scott Thong Says:

    Sigh… You are SO lazy.

    The blog links all show actual photos and video, if you bothered to check. At least look at the pictures, you lazy armchair lord.

    But if you really must have news sites…

    1. Charlotte Observer – Thousands turn out to see Palin at Elon

    2. Sun-Times News Group – McCain, Palin outdraw Obama in Green Bay, Wis.

    3. News-Press.com – Palin draws crowd of 60,000 in The Villages

    4. World News – Thousands turn out for Palin’s Jacksonville rally

    5. Yahoo News – Crowds turn out for Palin, McCain

    If even the anti-Palin media is forced to report good turnouts for her, you know she must have had a HUGE crowd.

    As for whether FOX is right-wing…

    FOX is the Most Balanced U.S. Media:

    The conclusion of a study made by the non-profit, politically neutral, non-partisan George Mason University Centre for Media and Public Affairs

    As for whether the US media is generally for Obama, taken from this post

    Half of voters see media bias favoring Obama:

    The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey found that 49% of voters believe most reporters will try to help the Democrat with their coverage. Just 14% believe most reporters will try to help McCain win…. Just 24% believe that most reporters will try to offer unbiased coverage.

    Investor’s Business Daily – Journalists donate mostly to Democrats:

    An analysis of federal records shows that the amount of money journalists contributed so far this election cycle favors Democrats by a 15:1 ratio over Republicans, with $225,563 going to Democrats, only $16,298 to Republicans .

    Two-hundred thirty-five journalists donated to Democrats, just 20 gave to Republicans — a margin greater than 10-to-1. An even greater disparity, 20-to-1, exists between the number of journalists who donated to Barack Obama and John McCain.

    In Malaysia, the media is enslaved by BN.

    In America, the media offers itself as a prostitute to Obama.

  5. gcast Says:

    “Giuliani would have had a much better chance of winning than McCain.”

    I’m not sure a McCain/Giuliani administration would be any better than an Obama/Biden.

  6. hutchrun Says:

    Chocolate, raisins or grapes are “poisonous” for pets, according to the code, while a dog should not be disturbed when eating as this can cause “food-related aggression”.

    It also recommends that dogs should not be fed at the table as this can lead to begging – and that “curious” animals such as cats should be kept away from windows or tumble dryers.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3381311/Absurd-new-guidelines-advise-pet-owners-against-allowing-dogs-to-beg-at-the-table.html

  7. hutchrun Says:

    In Gaza too they are celebrating. The ‘Palestinians’ fired seven more shells into Israel so those evil joos struck back, killing four terrorists who were about to shoot even more rockets into Israel.

  8. hutchrun Says:

    Barack Obama’s Kenyan family to celebrate by slaughtering bulls, chicken and goats
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article5082040.ece

    Guests Of Honor will be PETA (they “prefer eating tasty animals”)

  9. hutchrun Says:

    Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate and open. You can see it with your own eyes…. It has nothing to do with espionage.

    I know that intelligence gathering looks more romantic…. That’s probably why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond types of films. But in reality the main emphasis of the KGB is NOT in the area of intelligence at all. According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.

    It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages. The first one being “demoralization”. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism….

    The result? The result you can see … the people who graduated in the 60’s, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can’t get through to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.

    In other words [for] these people the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To rid society of these people you need another 15 or 20 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of United States society.

    http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/brainwashing/2007/bezmenov.htm

  10. hutchrun Says:

    A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.

    The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

    * From bondage to spiritual faith;
    * From spiritual faith to great courage;
    * From courage to liberty;
    * From liberty to abundance;
    * From abundance to complacency;
    * From complacency to apathy;
    * From apathy to dependence;
    * From dependence back into bondage.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Tyler

  11. Madame Says:

    MUAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHA….Sorry, guys…I just cant stop laughing at how seriously delusional you are😉

    Victory is sweeeeet!!!!🙂

    My condolences to the three ‘Magi’ here……HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA😀

  12. rubberman Says:

    Sweet victory for brothel owner is but a fleeting thrill, but with us lies 4 years of merriment.
    The antics of black monkey promise to be more thrilling. HAHAHAHA
    The muslims of Gaza have been celebrating with 35 rockets fired into Israel with black monkey`s victory already. I rub my hands with glee.

  13. Obama, Obama OBAMA! Says:

    Hip Hip Obama! Hip! Hip! Obama! The americans finally got it right! I say Obama, you say Nobama, I don’t care because we win! hahaha!

  14. rubberman Says:

    So now we are promised a change in America’s fundamental values. And they really will be changed. Obama has said in terms that he thinks the US constitution is flawed. America’s belief in itself as defending individual liberty, truth and justice on behalf of the free world will now be expiated instead as its original sin. Those who have for the past eight years worked to bring down the America that defends and protects life and liberty are today ecstatic. They have stormed the very citadel on Pennsylvania Avenue itself.

    Millions of Americans remain lion-hearted, decent, rational and sturdy. They find themselves today abandoned, horrified, deeply apprehensive for the future of their country and the free world. No longer the land of the free and the home of the brave; they must now look elsewhere.

    -melanie phillips

    Ooooooooooo just wait till they get their syariah in order ROTFL

  15. rubberman Says:

    The Indians are begining to sweat now:

    But as the campaign reached its culmination, he started speaking of the Kashmir issue in a language, which reminded one of the language of the past from the officials of the Clinton Administration. Obama’s entourage and Gen. David H.Petraeus, former Commander of the Multi-National Force in Iraq, who took over as the Commander of the US Central Command on October 31 and is presently on a visit to Pakistan and Afghanistan, have one thing in common—- they listen a lot to the assessments and recommendations of Ahmed Rashid, the Pakistani analyst, who has written extensively on the Taliban and the war against terrorism. In fact, Petraeus has reportedly nominated Ahmed Rashid and Shuja Nawaz, the author of the recently published book on the Pakistan Army called “Crossed Swords”, as members of a brains trust to advise him on a new strategy towards Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    Ahmed Rashid has been arguing for some months now that the Pakistan Army cannot be expected to co-operate wholeheartedly with the US Armed Forces in the war against Al Qaeda and the Taliban unless there is a forward movement in settling the Kashmir issue and India is pressured to cut down its presence in Afghanistan. There were not many takers for his arguments in the Bush Administration. But they have already started influencing the thinking of many who are close to Obama.

    Will he exercise pressure on India on the Kashmir issue and its role in Afghanistan after he takes over or will he let his pre-election remarks remain without follow up action? This is a question which should worry Indian policy-makers.

    GO BAMBI GO the Indians are looking to you for excitment also.

  16. ihateidiots Says:

    scott, you are one seriously disillusioned dude! Fox is the most balanced media in the US? You’ve GOTTA be kidding me! WHich planet do you hail from? Pluto? If the US media in your opinion is prostituting itself to Obama then what would that make u? Palin’s bitch or whore? Pimp more like it. Wait, it’s all of the above! LOL!

    Anyway, Obama won and so WE’RE having the last laugh not you for sure! LOL! You can MOCK him ALL you like. But the fact remains, Obama beat the CRAP outta mac plain both senate and congressional votes! Do i need to repeat myself? Yeah, he beat the CRAP out of Mac Plain. So eat that!

  17. ashton Says:

    Obama is not dead to have last laugh. The fun really begins now and the world`s gonna have a four year bellyache laugh.

  18. ashton Says:

    I say, I say, winning the battle is not the same as winning the war.

  19. ihateidiots Says:

    the fun really begins now and the world’s gonna have a four year bellyache laugh. ?????

    eer, could u check the republican’s backyard first please? before making this nostradamus prediction?

    I think the past 8 years of bellyahce laughter more than makes up for what you think’s about to come. If you think you can predict the next 4 yrs of bellyache laughter i wonder why didn’t you during the bush administration, and allowed George W Bush another 4 more years of absolute tomfoolery ?!!! George W Bush set a record that’s really IMPOSSIBLE to break. in case u didn’t notice eh ashton? u not from planet earth too eh i presume?

  20. Scott Thong Says:

    scott, you are one seriously disillusioned dude! Fox is the most balanced media in the US? You’ve GOTTA be kidding me! WHich planet do you hail from? Pluto? If the US media in your opinion is prostituting itself to Obama then what would that make u? Palin’s bitch or whore? Pimp more like it. Wait, it’s all of the above! LOL! – ihateidiots

    Are all Obama supporters are rude as you? Probably.

    On the balancedness of FOX, I quoted a neutral study by a nonpartisan group. What did you quote? What evidence did you provide? What links or facts?

    All you did was belittle my views and knowledge, while displaying your own total lack of it.

  21. jimmihendrix Says:

    I am Jimmi Hendrix and I`m no longer from planet earth.
    George Bush is history, only idiots live in the past with him.
    Obama`s Bellyache Of Laffs [OBOL] is the future. Enjoy it as it begins:

    MOSCOW — President Dmitry Medvedev says Russia will deploy missiles in its Baltic Sea territory in response to U.S. missile defense plans.

    Medvedev says the short-range Iskander missiles will be deployed to the Kaliningrad region which borders NATO members Poland and Lithuania. He has not said how many missiles will be deployed or whether they will be fitted with nuclear warheads.

    He said in a state-of-the-nation speech Wednesday that Russia will also deploy equipment to conduct to electronically hamper the operation of prospective U.S. missile defense facilities in Poland and the Czech Republic.

    Medvedev said that Russia will also use navy resources as part of its response to the U.S. missile shield.

  22. ihateidiots Says:

    you’re really something rubberman, nothing can be more hilarious and entertaining than dubya, this OLD bumbling baboon has left a legacy that’s has given us MUCH MUCH laughter to last a lifetime! Yes a lifetime! meanwhile, i do understand how sour those grapes are…is black monkey the best u can do?! Come on now!!!

  23. jimmihendrix Says:

    Oh and wait till OBOL gets to the Pakistanis, whiteys are gonna enjoy it. It will help to cut down the white US population, and maybe the black bradder will introduce draft as Johnson did and kick whitey ass into Pakistan.
    Rasta vibration positive.

  24. Scott Thong Says:

    MUAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHA….Sorry, guys…I just cant stop laughing at how seriously delusional you are

    Victory is sweeeeet!!!!

    My condolences to the three ‘Magi’ here……HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA – madame

    Barisan Nasional narrowly beat the Opposition. Does that make us all delusional?

    A full 47% of America share our ‘delusion’. Whatever they voted for, it wasn’t a man who hangs out with God D*mn America-spouting preachers, white-hating radicals and bomb-planting terrorists who disdains the working class, religious folk, gun owners, entrepeneurs and Red America in general.

    The other 53% share your delusion that President Obama will bring more good than bad change, more honesty than politically expedient fibs, more sense than hardheaded philosophy.

    Let me put it this way – we already have socialistic, pacifist-ish and highly liberal nations. They are collectively known as Europe. They have as little as 35-hour work weeks. They have crippling welfare burdens. They have around 7% unemployment compared to the current American 5%. They have legalized drug use, euthanasia and bestiality. They are being swamped by immigrants who do not want to assimilate, but rather conquer, and who chant death threats and riot and torch cars whenever they feel less than completely happy.

    And that’s what you want for America?

    Change!

    I bet that by the end of the his four years, he will make even W. Bush… Nay, even Jimmy Carter seem preferable!

    But I’m not a dogmatist… If Obama proves to be a good President, I will publicly withdraw my statement and make a full apology to him for all my years of mocking.

  25. Scott Thong Says:

    That McCain lost is, in the short term, likely to be a bad thing for America and the world. But we look at it this way:

    1) Without the lukewarm-Conservative, shameful RINOism of McCain, Palin has a much better shot at the 2012 Presidency. Four years of extra experience can only help her chances.

    2) Obama’s first term may end up Jimmy Carter’s second term, judging by their policies – taxation, economy, kowtowing to Iran you name it. And all Republicans know how his bungling led to the rise of the great Ronaldus Maximus.

    3) Obama’s inheriting two wars (one nearly completed successfully, one bogged down) and a trashed economy. And he promises to raise energy costs, bankrupt coal, give away billions of American dollars to poor non-Americans, and expand healthcare. Which he will pay for by greatly increasing taxes, capital gains taxes and windfall profits on oil. Not only that, but various Communist and Islamic terrorist groups fully expect him to drop palms with them! This really IS gonna be fun to watch!

  26. ihateidiots Says:

    scott, yada yada yada. heard of this, pot calling the kettle black?

    are all mac palin supporters so stupid? yes!
    are all mac palin supporters so BLIND? yes!
    are all mac palin supporters such sore loser? yes!

    i rest my case.

    as for me being rude. u call this rude. you ain’t heard nothing yet. i’ve read the responses being hurled to obama supporters here previously, those were way more rude than mine.

    i’m not being racist here (i didn’t call anyone a black monkey) and neither am i being sexist. so there. i am giving you all a dose of your own medicine.

  27. Scott Thong Says:

    So am I the pot and you the kettle, or the other way round?

    *Gasp* You used the word black?! You RACIST!!!

    Do note that I have never myself insulted Obama by calling him a monkey or any other unfounded slur. Go ahead, dig up the worse deragatory insult I’ve ever slung at Obama.

    So what you’ve been doing is hurling rude remarks at me, for things that commentors have said. In short, they insult Obama and because of that, you insult me.

    How does that work out?

    And for the record, you have yet to address my assertation that FOX is more balanced.

    But it’s okay… Sometimes when I can’t answer an allegation, I just ignore it. Just like you are.

  28. ihateidiots Says:

    Who owns Fox? go figure.

  29. ihateidiots Says:

    oh really? i’m a racist? oh that’s new, that’s for enlightening me!

    did i hurl remarks at you. awww, you are such a sensitive one you are. but when it comes to other people’s feelings, you are obviously oblivious are you now?

    how does that work out? you are lazy aren’t u? do yr homework.

    well, all i can say is scott, it takes one to know one! hehehe….

    later, it was nice while it lasted! CIAO!

  30. Obama, Obama OBAMA! Says:

    Hmm, for real economic knowledge. Scott, you want link i give you link

    http://media.economist.com/media/pdf/us_election_2008.pdf

  31. Scott Thong Says:

    Who owns Fox? go figure. – ihateidiots

    Who does own FOX? Do you even know? Is that actually an argument? Because I can beat you at even that.

    Q: Who owns the allegedly neutral CNN?

    A: Ted Turner – global warming paranoiist and Bush hater.

  32. Obama, Obama OBAMA! Says:

    correction american unemployment is at 7% not 5%.😀

  33. Scott Thong Says:

    later, it was nice while it lasted! CIAO! – ihateidiots

    Yes, it was fun pwning your lack of knowledge and Google search skills. Do come back any time for more beatings.

  34. Scott Thong Says:

    My bad, Obama, Obama OBAMA!… I presumed to use general unemployment rates over the past years rather than the most recent months which would be skewed by the worldwide economic difficulties.

    See, ihateidiots? Obama, Obama OBAMA! knows his knowledge and Google search.

  35. ihateidiots Says:

    hahahaha…yes obama obama obama clearly knows his stuff and you obviously DON’T! ROTFL.😀

  36. jimmihendrix Says:

    He is not rude – just a “useful idiot”

  37. Obi1canopy Says:

    The shiites know muslim stuff oso:

    Barrack Obama’s victory in the American election foretold the appearance of the Islamic redeemer, al-Mahdi.

    According to the text that is the foundation of modern Shiite Islam, a prophecy that a tall black man would rule the West portends the coming of the Islamic redeemer.

    Ali Ibn Abi-Talib—the prophet’s cousin and son-in-law and the most revered figure in Shiite Islam—prophesied that before the return of the Mahdi, the ultimate redeemer in Islam, a tall black man will rule the West and will carry a “clear sign” from the Third Imam,Hussein Ibn Ali, according to the report by Iranian-born, London-based journalist Amir Taheri.

    Forbes magazine published a story about the Iranian pro-government website that published a hadith (saying or tradition) from the 17th century Shiite text Bahar al-Anvar (Sea of Light) setting off a string of rumors about the prophecy’s connection to Obama.

    The link between this black man and the American presidential candidate started with his name. In Arabic and Persian, “Barrack Obama” means “the blessing of al-Hussein.” When written in Persian alphabet, the word “O Ba Ma” means “he is with us.”

    Other coincidences contributed to establishing the theological link, including the view of the Iranian government that an Obama victory would signify the decline of the West and the triumph of Islam. Obama’s relative lenience in pledging unconditional talks with Iran is also seen as a sign of American weakness.

    The Mahdi (Arabic for “the guided one”), is supposed to return before Judgment Day to eliminate injustice and tyranny. The appearance of the Mahdi is not mentioned in the Quran or the Sunnah (Prophet’s teachings), and many Sunni scholars view it as a Shiite invention.

    The Mahdi figure is an essential part in the Shiite doctrine. For Shiites, Mahdi is believed to be the Twelfth Imam, a descendant of the prophet who went into hiding, but will return one day return to restore justice to the world.

  38. ihateidiots Says:

    Here’s what the ‘useful idiot’ found for you!😉 eat that scott! hahahahaha…….
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    http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1067

    The Most Biased Name in News
    Fox News Channel’s extraordinary right-wing tilt

    By Seth Ackerman

    “I challenge anybody to show me an example of bias in Fox News Channel.”–Rupert Murdoch (Salon, 3/1/01)

    Years ago, Republican party chair Rich Bond explained that conservatives’ frequent denunciations of “liberal bias” in the media were part of “a strategy” (Washington Post, 8/20/92). Comparing journalists to referees in a sports match, Bond explained: “If you watch any great coach, what they try to do is ‘work the refs.’ Maybe the ref will cut you a little slack next time.”

    But when Fox News Channel, Rupert Murdoch’s 24-hour cable network, debuted in 1996, a curious thing happened: Instead of denouncing it, conservative politicians and activists lavished praise on the network. “If it hadn’t been for Fox, I don’t know what I’d have done for the news,” Trent Lott gushed after the Florida election recount (Washington Post, 2/5/01). George W. Bush extolled Fox News Channel anchor Tony Snow–a former speechwriter for Bush’s father–and his “impressive transition to journalism” in a specially taped April 2001 tribute to Snow’s Sunday-morning show on its five-year anniversary (Washington Post, 5/7/01). The right-wing Heritage Foundation had to warn its staffers not to watch so much Fox News on their computers, because it was causing the think tank’s system to crash.

    When it comes to Fox News Channel, conservatives don’t feel the need to “work the ref.” The ref is already on their side. Since its 1996 launch, Fox has become a central hub of the conservative movement’s well-oiled media machine. Together with the GOP organization and its satellite think tanks and advocacy groups, this network of fiercely partisan outlets–such as the Washington Times, the Wall Street Journal editorial page and conservative talk-radio shows like Rush Limbaugh’s–forms a highly effective right-wing echo chamber where GOP-friendly news stories can be promoted, repeated and amplified. Fox knows how to play this game better than anyone.

  39. ihateidiots Says:

    Yet, at the same time, the network bristles at the slightest suggestion of a conservative tilt. In fact, wrapping itself in slogans like “Fair and balanced” and “We report, you decide,” Fox argues precisely the opposite: Far from being a biased network, Fox argues, it is the only unbiased network. So far, Fox’s strategy of aggressive denial has worked surprisingly well; faced with its unblinking refusal to admit any conservative tilt at all, some commentators have simply acquiesced to the network’s own self-assessment. FAIR has decided to take a closer look.

    “Coming next, drug addicted pregnant women no longer have anything to fear from the authorities thanks to the Supreme Court. Both sides on this in a moment.”–Bill O’Reilly (O’Reilly Factor, 3/23/01)

    Fox’s founder and president, Roger Ailes, was for decades one of the savviest and most pugnacious Republican political operatives in Washington, a veteran of the Nixon and Reagan campaigns. Ailes is most famous for his role in crafting the elder Bush’s media strategy in the bruising 1988 presidential race. With Ailes’ help, Bush turned a double-digit deficit in the polls into a resounding win by targeting the GOP’s base of white male voters in the South and West, using red-meat themes like Michael Dukakis’ “card-carrying” membership in the ACLU, his laissez-faire attitude toward flag-burning, his alleged indifference to the pledge of allegiance–and, of course, paroled felon Willie Horton.

    Described by fellow Bush aide Lee Atwater as having “two speeds–attack and destroy,” Ailes once jocularly told a Time reporter (8/22/88): “The only question is whether we depict Willie Horton with a knife in his hand or without it.” Later, as a producer for Rush Limbaugh’s short-lived TV show, he was fond of calling Bill Clinton the “hippie president” and lashing out at “liberal bigots” (Washington Times, 5/11/93). It is these two sensibilities above all–right-wing talk radio and below-the-belt political campaigning–that Ailes brought with him to Fox, and his stamp is evident in all aspects of the network’s programming.

    Fox daytime anchor David Asman is formerly of the right-wing Wall Street Journal editorial page and the conservative Manhattan Institute. The host of Fox News Sunday is Tony Snow, a conservative columnist and former chief speechwriter for the first Bush administration. Eric Breindel, previously the editorial-page editor of the right-wing New York Post, was senior vice president of Fox’s parent company, News Corporation, until his death in 1998; Fox News Channel’s senior vice president is John Moody, a long-time journalist known for his staunch conservative views.

    Fox’s managing editor is Brit Hume, a veteran TV journalist and contributor to the conservative American Spectator and Weekly Standard magazines. Its top-rated talkshow is hosted by Bill O’Reilly, a columnist for the conservative WorldNetDaily.com and a registered Republican (that is, until a week before the Washington Post published an article revealing his party registration–12/13/00).

    The abundance of conservatives and Republicans at Fox News Channel does not seem to be a coincidence. In 1996, Andrew Kirtzman, a respected New York City cable news reporter, was interviewed for a job with Fox and says that management wanted to know what his political affiliation was. “They were afraid I was a Democrat,” he told the Village Voice (10/15/96). When Kirtzman refused to tell Fox his party ID, “all employment discussion ended,” according to the Voice.

    Catherine Crier, who was perceived as one of Fox’s most prestigious and credible early hires, was an elected Republican judge before starting a career in journalism. (Crier has since moved on to Court TV.) Pundit Mara Liasson–who is touted as an on-air “liberal” by Fox executives–sits on the board of the conservative human-rights group Freedom House; New York magazine (11/17/97) cited a Fox insider as saying that Liasson assured president Roger Ailes before being hired that she was a Republican.

  40. Obi1canopy Says:

    Saturday, December 29, 2007
    Fox News is most balanced according to University study

    This is sure to set teeth on edge, veins in the neck to bulge and the media elite to froth at the mouth:

    These results are from CMPA’s 2008 ElectionNewsWatch Project. They are based on a scientific content analysis of all 481 election news stories (15 hours 40 minutes of airtime) that aired on the flagship evening news shows on ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX (the first 30 minutes of “Special Report with Brit Hume”) from October 1 through December 15, 2007.

    Who’s Fair and Balanced?: Fox News Channel’s coverage was more balanced toward both parties than the broadcast networks were. On FOX, evaluations of all Democratic candidates combined were split almost evenly – 51% positive vs. 49% negative, as were all evaluations of GOP candidates – 49% positive vs. 51% negative, producing a perfectly balanced 50-50 split for all candidates of both parties.

    On the three broadcast networks, opinion on Democratic candidates split 47% positive vs. 53% negative, while evaluations of Republicans were more negative – 40% positive vs. 60% negative. For both parties combined, network evaluations were almost 3 to 2 negative in tone, i.e. 41% positive vs. 59% negative.

  41. ihateidiots Says:

    it’s too long to paste it here, just go and read it all there on how ‘balanced’ Fox news claims to be😉 happy reading scott!

  42. Obi1canopy Says:

    CNN bias:

    CNN’s Wolf Blitzer is also being taken to task for his overall handling of the debate- and especially the closing question for the debate, which had nothing to do with politics whatsoever:

    Maria Parra-Sandoval, 22, a senior political science major at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, said she wanted to ask the Democratic frontrunner where she stood on the proposed Yucca Mountain nuclear repository in Nevada, an issue about which she said she wrote a paper as a finalist for a Truman Scholarship.

    Instead, she said, CNN’s Suzanne Malveaux told her right before the end of the debate to go with the following question:

    “This is a fun question for you. Do you prefer diamonds or pearls?”

    The question got a big laugh, and Clinton answered swiftly:

    “Now, I know I’m sometimes accused of not being able to make a choice.

    “I want both.”

    To a roar of applause and more laughter, moderator Wolf Blitzer closed out the night.

    Doesn’t it just make you all warm and fuzzy? In a time where disclosures of planted questions and non-answers are drawing the ire of the American public- this kind’ve nonsense is the last thing any candidate needs, and the last the the public should really want. Mr. Cena- you wanted to know what else they’ve done- here are your answers.

    http://patriotmissive.com/2007/11/17/way-to-go-cnn-bias-in-reporting/

  43. Obi1canopy Says:

    CNN Bias: Declares Biden the Debate Winner in an Even Count

    After the vice presidential debate on Thursday, CNN’s Soledad O’ Brien ran a focus group of self declared Republicans, Democrats and undecideds.

    The Creative Minority Report described the scene on the CNN set:

    Soledad asked them immediately after the debate, “How many thought Joe Biden won the debate tonight?”

    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/cnn-bias-declares-biden-debate-winner.html

  44. Obi1canopy Says:

    ABC bias:

    In 12 cases of the ABC’s Iraq war coverage serious bias was displayed, an independent review panel has found.

    Former communications minister Richard Alston, who lodged 68 complaints against the ABC’s AM current affairs radio program, was crowing today about the findings.

    He said it was a devastating indictment on the ABC’s self-indulgent, self-assessment complaints handling procedure.

    “This brutal reality check must shake ABC senior management out of its entrenched culture of denial,” Senator Alston said.

    The Independent Complaints Review Panel upheld 17 of the 68 complaints, and said 12 of them involved serious bias by a reporter or presenter within an individual broadcast.

    In relation to another four complaints, the panel identified breaches of an ABC editorial directive requiring presenters and reporters to refrain from emotional language or editorialisation in reporting the war.

    http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/10/10/1065676141052.html?from=storyrhs

  45. Obi1canopy Says:

    NBC: Our Bias is Showing
    By Ed Driscoll · February 15, 2007 07:46 PM · Oh, That Liberal Media!

    What’s going on with NBC?

    At the start of the month, I wrote:

    So far the Blogosphere has spotted Chernobyl-style meltdowns in credibility by CBS, the Washington Post, Newsweek, AP, and on numerous occasions, the New York Times and Reuters.

    When I interviewed Glenn Reynolds last year for my TCS Daily article on An Army Of Davids, he quoted a passage from Vernor Vinge’s Rainbows End that “utopia was a Red Queen’s Race with extinction”. Glenn added, “Even if things are going terribly, it will seem like it’s going well, right up until the end”.

    Have the mainstream media quietly begun some sort of Red Queen’s Race of their own? Or is the Blogosphere merely getting increasingly better at catching the media’s worst moments and publicizing them?

    http://eddriscoll.com/archives/010401.php

  46. gobsmacked Says:

    Ihateidiots,

    everyone is owned by someone. you should really start checking where fair.org gets their funding from. the road might get long but you will be surprised to read what you find😉

    on another note, you might want to read what barack obama’s speech writer who left him just a few days before the election says about him. another bombshell i tell ya…

    http://monkeycrash.com/2008/10/29/democratic-speech-writer-wendy-button-leaves-democrat-party-now-supports-mccain/

  47. gobsmacked Says:

    wendy button should have left and spoken up sooner. but then would the mainstream media bother reporting the news😉

  48. Obi1canopy Says:

    OBAMA 2012: FOUR YEARS LATER
    A LOOK BACK AT HIS PRESIDENCY

    It’s hard to believe that just four years ago, some were talking about Barack Obama as a national savior, a secular redeemer, a “light worker.” Even more shocking, President Obama lost the nomination of his own party to none other than Hillary Clinton. How did we get here?

    There are no shortage of recriminatory theories for President Obama’s precipitous fall from would-be messiah, to near pariah. Discussions with leaders within the Democratic Party, including prominent former members of the Obama administration, give a kaleidoscopic picture of missed opportunities, wrong turns and embarrassing blunders.

    The first mistake many cite was actually made before Obama was even elected: the selection of Joseph Biden as his vice president. During the campaign, all eyes were on John McCain’s running mate, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. But even then there were signs of the troubles to come (ironically, Biden’s biggest “gaffe” – about Obama being tested early in his presidency – proved eerily prescient).

    Still, nothing prepared the country for some of former Vice President Biden’s comments while in office. Early on, when he told the Russian foreign minister he’d “rather punch a nun in the throat” than cooperate on an Iranian nuclear deal, the Obama administration knew they had a problem on their hands.

    The strange comments and behavior kept coming: at an international summit on child poverty, he accused the Dalai Lama of issuing a “brain fart,” he phoned Supreme Court Chief Justice Roberts at home and called him a “[re]tard in short pants,” and of course the several stories – clearly leaked by aides to the president – of Mr. Biden sitting in the president’s chair in the Oval Office and being more than reluctant to get out when asked to do so by the president.

    The last straw was Biden’s complaint, emphatically offered at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, that he would have more influence over foreign policy if he were black. His staff’s effort to dismiss the incident as a joke – at the normally comedic event – fell short largely because Biden shouted “I am not joking!” two dozens times in speech that lasted less than 10 minutes. The fact that Biden had not been invited to speak at the dinner in the first place only added to the controversy.

    Ultimately, the embarrassment became too much and Mr. Biden became the first vice president to resign from office since Spiro Agnew.

  49. Obi1canopy Says:

    The subsequent battle over Obama’s replacement sapped his presidency of much of its energy. Indeed, many credit Hillary Clinton’s decision to run against Obama to her anger at being passed over twice for the vice presidency. The failure of two of Obama’s ostensibly bipartisan picks – New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and former Vermont Senator Jim Jeffords – because they were too “rightwing” only made him seem weak compared to the firebrand liberal 111th congress. Charges that the Obama presidency was really a Trojan Horse for a Pelosi prime ministership only grew louder when he was forced to accept Henry Waxman as his vice president.

    Indeed, the overconfidence of Congressional Democrats posed another major challenge to the Obama presidency. During the 2008 election, Obama’s conservative critics had long complained that the then-freshman senator had little to no record of standing up the leftwing base of his party in part, they argued, because he himself was much more leftwing than he had let on.

    Whatever the truth of that, what is not contested is that the Congressional Progressive Caucus – the largest partisan bloc in the Congress when Mr. Obama was elected – believed that the new president was “one of us” according to many sources contacted for this article.

    The CPC, colloquially known as the “big swinging caucus” after an unfortunate joke by then-Republican Minority Leader John Boehner after a scandal involving Rep. Barney Frank (see side story), pushed Barack Obama on a wide array of fronts: they demanded very large cuts in the military budget, a sweeping government expansion into the role of healthcare, and in a move that experts agree caused the Wall Street Panic of 2010, they persuaded Mr. Obama to make the government’s partial ownership of the remaining “Big Five” banks permanent. Representatives Frank and Charlie Rangel argued that the stakes, bought by the Bush treasury department, in the banks provided, in Frank’s words, a “once in a lifetime opportunity to inject some social justice into the capitalist system.” Or as Senator Jesse Jackson Jr. said, “if we’ve got them by the b – – – s already, why let go?”

    Americans also don’t like it when White House press secretary Keith Olbermann tells them that complaining about higher taxes is “racist.”

  50. Obi1canopy Says:

    A general consensus among political observers is that Obama’s essential problem was that he was oversold and too naive and arrogant to realize he wasn’t as his most devoted fans believed. A senior Democrat on Capitol Hill marveled: “In 2008, this guy promised to send everyone to college, vastly increase foreign aid, create a ‘civilian national security force’ that was just a well-funded as the U.S. military, his wife said he’d fix our ‘broken souls,’ and he said he’d make the oceans stop rising, all without increasing the deficit. The amazing thing is he thought it was all true. He makes Jimmy Carter look like he should be on Mt. Rushmore.”

    Another advisor compared Obama to Max Bialystock, the con man from the Mel Brooks’ film “The Producers.” In the movie, Bialystock sells 100% ownership of the play to dozens of investors. “Barack Obama sold 100% shares in his presidency to every constituency imaginable and they all thought they were at the front of the line after inauguration day.”

    Meanwhile, in a sign of the bitterness within the Democratic Party these days, former vice president Joe Biden has not endorsed a candidate. But he did say that President Obama could be a great leader in his second term “if he would only learn that the square circle grows moss only when the fat man bathes in dirty moonlight.”

  51. Obi1canopy Says:

    OBAMA 2012: HIS TRIUMPHS ABROAD
    OUR GREATEST FOREIGN POLICY PRESIDENT?

    Looking back on the four years of his first administration, President Obama can be proud: He made the US welcome among the family of nations again; he reduced our reliance on military force; and he gave us peace by reaching sensible accommodations with our enemies.

    The lies told about him in the 2008 election were exposed as sheer bigotry. Far from being “soft on radical Islam,” President Obama was the first world leader to welcome Jewish refugees after Iran’s nuclear destruction of Israel’s major cities (his only caveat – a fair one – was the refusal to accept Zionist military officers and their families, in light of Israel’s excessive retaliation).

    He also demonstrated his resolve in the face of extremism when he overruled the obstructionist advice of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and ordered our military to cross the border into Pakistan in force. The subsequent debacle, as Pakistan cut off supply routes to Afghanistan and threatened a nuclear response, was entirely the fault of our generals on the ground, not of the administration.

    Fortunately, President Obama’s willingness to talk to our enemies rescued the situation. After laying down their arms, our troops were allowed to evacuate Pakistan and Afghanistan in peace. The Taliban’s return to power in Kabul did not result in an excessive bloodbath, and al Qaeda is not permitted the unrestricted freedom it enjoyed in the country prior to 2001.

  52. Obi1canopy Says:

    State Department surveys prove that the Afghan population welcomes Sharia law, the closure of girls’ schools and other such cultural choices. Our reparations payments to Kabul (as with those to Havana) are only just. Opium production is, arguably, no worse than in the past.

    We also have seen peace in Iraq. Claims that our troop withdrawal was responsible for the resurgence of al Qaeda and the subsequent civil war are nothing but Republican campaign propaganda. With the International Sunni Alliance in firm control of Iraq – after Israel’s wanton destruction of Iran – order prevails in the streets. As for the Turkish and Arab suppression of the Kurds, our diplomats regard it as a small price to pay for regional stability. Biased reports of massacres and concentration camps remain unsubstantiated.

    Our relations with the Muslim world have rarely, if ever, been better. The current $320 per barrel price of oil allows long-oppressed states to develop themselves without the yoke of neo-colonialism or invasive efforts to force democracy upon their populations. As UN Ambassador Ayers noted, “We can state with pride that the US not only respects, but embraces cultural differences.”

  53. R Smith Says:

    To matkilat and Gov Palin’s “faux pas.” I have to assume you arejoking or being ironic, given that Joe the Biden has gaffed an average of once a day while he was on the campaign. Oh, sorry, those were “rhetorical flourishes.”

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  55. Scott Thong Says:

    hahahaha…yes obama obama obama clearly knows his stuff and you obviously DON’T! ROTFL. – ihateidiots

    If he were the one laughing at me, I’d accept it humbly.

    But you? What alternate reality Bizarro World are you from? You didn’t even lay a finger on my argument that the media is generally biased in favour of Obama (which Obi1canopy added much to, kudos).

    To back up your perception that FOX is right-wing (where did you get that idea, Obama’s whining that FOX worship him?), you cite a website that features primarily pro-Democrat content. Whereas, I and obi cited actual studies by neutral researchers.

    Even if you can prove that fair.org is itself not just a liberal front (just because I call myself superhuman does not make it true), and that FOX is slightly right-leaning, that’s still just on network out of CNN, ABC, MSNBC, BBC, AP, NYT, WaPo…

    So if Obama, Obama OBAMA! knows his stuff, and I don’t, what kind of negative numbers of knowledge do YOU rank?

  56. Miguel Says:

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    And if we look for Peter Hart’s business we get Hart Research Associates. Some of its clients are according to its website:

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  57. Scott Thong Says:

    Thank ‘ee kindly, Miguel!

    Would ihateidiots like more bitter candy?

  58. matkilat Says:

    LOL.

    Scott, you are delusional about Palin. One swallow does not a summer make. And neither does one or two big rallies a succesful PRESIDENTIAL campaign.

    “The blog links all show actual photos and video, if you bothered to check. At least look at the pictures, you lazy armchair lord.”

    And?

    Even Louis Farrakhan got 2 million people to march in Washington DC, and if he had run I doubt he would get even 20% of the vote.

    All they were doing was preaching to the choir Scott. Deep down, you know that.

    Besides, look at all your “massive” rallies.

    Most were in NC, Wisconsin, Missouri – all solid Red states where even if the Repubs ran a Chimpanzee from the NY Zoo they would’ve won the state.

    In the “battleground” states?
    Jacksonville, The Villages – both in Fla. Won by? Obama.

    Fat lot of good that one did Scotty.

    McCain/Palin campaign was a total embarrasment.

    Face facts, Giuliani/Romney would have wiped the floor with Obama/Biden (did Biden even do anything during the campaign? I think most Americans won’t even recognize his face) – but you can’t bring yourself to support Ruddy because he supports abortion.

  59. Jamie Says:

    Ihateidiots sounds like a muslim apologist…except he’s playing apologetics for Obama. He throws a lame argument without any serious factual backings, then ignores all future requests to back up his argument further. Instead, he relies on throwing insults and then decides to say something along the lines of “haha I won and you lost, it’s been fun bye retard!”.

  60. Scott Thong Says:

    Even Louis Farrakhan got 2 million people to march in Washington DC, and if he had run I doubt he would get even 20% of the vote.

    All they were doing was preaching to the choir Scott. Deep down, you know that.

    You miss or ignore my point – that Palin riled up the support of the Conservative base, something that McCain was unable to do. And that point is given in support of my claim that Palin was beneficial to the Republican ticket, not detrimental as you claimed. (Or have you forgotten already? It’s the very first comment on this page.)

    And of course each preaches to their own choir – Palin to the Conservatives, Obama to the Liberals, and McCain spoiling the morning with his Centrist croaking.

    A full 46% of America listens to the Palin choir. Let’s listen to Obama’s solo for a few years, and see how the audience reacts then.

    America’s stock market has only seen the preview, and are already they are demanding their ticket money back (to the tune of 500 points).

    Face facts, Giuliani/Romney would have wiped the floor with Obama/Biden (did Biden even do anything during the campaign? I think most Americans won’t even recognize his face) – but you can’t bring yourself to support Ruddy because he supports abortion.

    You got that right. TOTALLY.

  61. USpace Says:

    .
    Well effin said. Great post. It’s comforting to run into some non-American blogs not totally gaga over the Obamassiah. I want to believe that Obama won’t be as bad as some people think, but I’m quite sure, that at best, he won’t be as good as most people hope he will be.

    I wish this site had come out earlier, I had some Obamabot friends finding out that they had big differences with Obama’s positions:
    http://www.barackobamatest.com/

    Years ago I was knocked off the voting rolls here in this very Blue City when I was a Republican, on election day I found out I was knocked off as an Un-Affiliated. Next time I should register as a Democrat, I bet I won’t get knocked off then.

    The biggest dangers come from the Left anyway, my votes in this Blue State’s closed primaries would be more important there.

    Telling Moonbats I’m a Democrat would stop some in their tracks too, maybe making it easier to chip away at the false veneer of so-called ‘progressivism’.

    Let’s hope he does well, at least not too badly, with the least amount of despair possible. May God Bless and help guide President Obama. And may God Bless and save America! Keep the faith!
    .
    absurd thought –
    God of the Universe hates
    history either way

    America WILL survive
    we MUST still fight for freedom

    .
    absurd thought –
    God of the Universe says
    ELECT socialism

    let the young people see
    survive the false promises

    .
    creating MORE jobs
    will spread NEW wealth around
    – it is NOT finite

    .
    absurd thought –
    God of the Universe says
    give up the search for truth

    stop trying to show people
    how the world really works

    .
    absurd thought –
    God of the Universe says
    Bush was worse than Hitler

    and Stalin and Mao
    and Castro combined

    .
    All real freedom starts with freedom of speech. If there is no freedom of speech there can be no real freedom.
    .
    POTUS-Elect BHO Thrills Earth!
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    .🙂
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  62. ihateidiots Says:

    Palin, beneficial not detrimental…. What a revelation! You’re a ‘genius’ scott! I mean really you are! LMAO….I agree. Whole heartedly. (wait let me finish my bellyache laugh first…) Seriously dude, have you been stoned this entire time? More like ‘beneficial’ to the democrats she was!😉 If not for her, Mc Cain’s loss would not have been that astounding to say the least! So thank you Palin!

    Palin’s effect to the republican campaign equals : one step forward, and three steps backwards.

    still don’t get it?

    What was the old sonofagun thinking when he picked her. I mean, Palin as a ‘substitute’ to Hillary? What an insult to Hillary’s supporters! McCain was seriously mistaken if he expected backers of the New York senator to break ranks with the Democratic party because of Palin.

    You’re either one horny dude who’s so focused on Palin’s looks that you just can’t see beyond her peagent beauty or you’re simply …. (I’ll be gentle here) ‘confused’ and ‘dazed’ ;P

    I came, I saw, I’m bored….I’m outta here. Don’t wanna waste my bullets with you imperious folks. Still in a celebratory mood🙂 So Ciao now guys…..continue with yr grieving, don’t let me stop you lot!😉

  63. prism Says:

    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin carries the mantle of economic populism and blue-collar voters, many of whom are committed social conservatives. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has emerged as a spokesman for economic conservatives focused on small government and low taxes. Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal remain popular as rising stars.

    Complicating the coming fight is a widening gap between the party’s grass-roots activists and its intellectual elite. Gov. Palin sits squarely in the center of the debate. Embraced by many social conservatives in the party’s base, she was dismissed by some party leaders, including some former government officials who endorsed Democrat Barack Obama. Activists see her as the party’s future, others as a novice whose at-times shaky performance has doomed her prospects — a split reflected in polls that showed her popularity dropping during the general election, but her supporters’ enthusiasm high.

    “She’s a star among conservatives, but the crucial independent voter has a different perspective, and the lesson for the GOP…is if you lose the center, you lose America,” said pollster Frank Luntz, who blamed Republican losses in 2006 and 2008 on a failure to appeal to independents.

    “The Sarah Palin phenomenon is not going to disappear,” said Tim Morgan, deputy managing editor of the evangelical magazine Christianity Today. Gov. Palin has the potential, he said, to build a movement on issues including increased domestic energy production and a tough line on illegal immigration.

    Gov. Palin also won support from some party die-hards, even as others, such as former Secretary of State Colin Powell, distanced themselves from her. “She has energized our base like I’ve never seen,” Ohio Sen. George Voinovich said at a Monday rally in Lakewood, Ohio, where he introduced the Republican vice-presidential nominee.

    Said Mr. Norquist: “The only two weeks when McCain was sort-of ahead in the polls were the two weeks after she was chosen.”

    In recent days, Gov. Palin remained coy about her ambitions. “You know, if there is a role in national politics, it won’t be so much partisan,” she told reporters at a Wasilla, Alaska, coffee shop on Tuesday. “My efforts have always been here in the state of Alaska to get everybody to unite and work together.”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122585703357500345.html

  64. Scott Thong Says:

    I stand by my linkages defending, ihateidiots. You still have yet to provide even one. Therefore, I continue to assume that all your arguments are based on mere personal opinion and wishful thinking rather than fact.

    The mere fact that there are so many wingnuts like me blogging about Palin is testament to her galvanizing the Conservatives.

    And just like the usual trolls who come around to this blog, who have lots of insults to fling but very little substance, you’re calling it quits after getting soundly refuted – but claiming victory and explaining it as not deeming it worthy to talk to us lesser minded folk.

    To quote Wimp Lo from Kung Pow!: I am bleeding… Making me the victor.

    Exactly the same pattern as previous troll attendingtheworld, who also surrendered with his tail between his legs while claiming glorious victory. So Obama vis-a-vis Iraq! He’d be proud of you (and Michelle O for the first time in her life).

    Btw, didn’t you already say you were quitting this blog once? (“Nice while it lasted, CIAO”) Flip flopping just like your Dear Leader.

  65. Obama, Obama OBAMA! Says:

    If it is a choice between McCain and Palin, i prefer McCain. Palin is out of her depth as to be part of the white house. she knows naught about economics and nil about foreign policy as evident from interview with Katie Couric. palin is a polarising figure, she alienated progressive republicans, moderate republicans, independents and potential republican supporters, the reagan democrats.

    Scott, this article is for you. This shows the ‘depth’ of her capability to lead america.

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20081106/twl-palin-said-africa-was-a-country-3fd0ae9.html

    Sarah Palin did not know Africa was a continent rather than a country, according to information leaking out from the failed Republican campaign. Aides to John McCain were shocked by the gaps in the Alaska Governor’s knowledge at briefings after she was announced as his running mate, according to Fox News chief political correspondent Carl Cameron.

    “She didn’t understand, McCain aides told me, that Africa was a continent and not a country and actually asked them if South Africa wasn’t just part of the country as opposed to a country in the continent,” he said on The O’Reilly Factor programme.

    Mrs Palin was also unable to name the countries involved in the North American Free Trade Agreement, which was “a major campaign issue”, Cameron said.

    Infighting over her performance intensified after her interview with Katie Couric of CBS, for which she refused preparation, was widely criticised.

    “It didn’t go well,” Cameron said.

    “She blamed Nicole Wallace, a senior adviser who had worked for CBS with Couric and had organised some of that interview, and then the rift began to really unfold.

    “That refusal of debate preparation caused some problems.”

    He went on: “Afterwards, Mrs Palin began to attack staff and suggest she was mishandled and communicated that to some people within the McCain campaign and outside.”

    Mrs Palin became a nightmare to deal with and started to throw tantrums over negative press, Cameron’s sources told him.

    “The way I understand it, there were times when she would be so nasty and angry to staff that they were virtually reduced to tears.

    “There was throwing of paperwork and things of that nature.”

    McCain staff also suggested to the Fox correspondent that Mrs Palin was a “shopaholic” who bought extra clothes despite the Republican party spending a reported $150,000 on her wardrobe.

  66. Obama, Obama OBAMA! Says:

    Palin’s ‘depth’

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20081106/twl-palin-said-africa-was-a-country-3fd0ae9.html

    Sarah Palin did not know Africa was a continent rather than a country, according to information leaking out from the failed Republican campaign.
    Aides to John McCain were shocked by the gaps in the Alaska Governor’s knowledge at briefings after she was announced as his running mate, according to Fox News chief political correspondent Carl Cameron.

    “She didn’t understand, McCain aides told me, that Africa was a continent and not a country and actually asked them if South Africa wasn’t just part of the country as opposed to a country in the continent,” he said on The O’Reilly Factor programme.

    Mrs Palin was also unable to name the countries involved in the North American Free Trade Agreement, which was “a major campaign issue”, Cameron said.

    Infighting over her performance intensified after her interview with Katie Couric of CBS, for which she refused preparation, was widely criticised.

    “It didn’t go well,” Cameron said.

    “She blamed Nicole Wallace, a senior adviser who had worked for CBS with Couric and had organised some of that interview, and then the rift began to really unfold.

    “That refusal of debate preparation caused some problems.”

    He went on: “Afterwards, Mrs Palin began to attack staff and suggest she was mishandled and communicated that to some people within the McCain campaign and outside.”

    Mrs Palin became a nightmare to deal with and started to throw tantrums over negative press, Cameron’s sources told him.

    “The way I understand it, there were times when she would be so nasty and angry to staff that they were virtually reduced to tears.

    “There was throwing of paperwork and things of that nature.”

    McCain staff also suggested to the Fox correspondent that Mrs Palin was a “shopaholic” who bought extra clothes despite the Republican party spending a reported $150,000 on her wardrobe.

  67. palin4america Says:

    Hi Scott! Great post, I love your blog! Would you mind if I put you on the blogroll of my two blogs, Palin4America and A. A. Armitage’s Alliterative Allegories?

  68. Scott Thong Says:

    Go for it, Palin-Petraues/Jindal/Rice 2012!

  69. Scott Thong Says:

    Obama, Obama OBAMA!, I shall respond with the following:

    Obama’s depth – Called on UN to halt Russia-Georgia war, did not know Russia holds veto power in UN and Security Council

    Biden’s depth – Claimed Roosevelt presided over market crash and went on TV, when it happened 3 years before Roosevelt’s Presidency and TV hadn’t even been invented yet

    The difference? One is now President elect, the other Vice-President elect who will be facing the world and its threats in a few weeks, while Palin has 4 years to brush up on her knowledge before trying again.

  70. USpace Says:

    McCain made a lot more mistakes than Palin. He let her go in front of ‘Gotcha!’ idiots and twits like Gibson and Couric, McCain never I think went on Fox, the most watched News Channel with loads of independents and conservative Democrats. The votes that McCain needed, instead he spent loads of time on CNN.

    I ‘m already getting excited about a Palin/Jindal ticket in 2012 or 2016. Imagine, the GOP getting in the first Woman POTUS with a male minority VP. The Loonie Left-wing Nuts will not be able hide their overt racism and sexism to any minorities or women that dare to no be so-called progressives.
    .
    absurd thought –
    God of the Universe says
    NEVER ELECT a woman

    OR a minority
    if they are Right of center

    .
    absurd thought –
    God of the Universe says
    you must be a racist

    if you vote for a white man
    it can’t be his politics
    .

  71. ihateidiots Says:

    I said good bye in that posting but i didn’t say fare well forever did I? You are certainly presumptious of many things.

    You can continue to assume your linkages are the best of your sources. I too hv my reliable sources but I don’t need to give a link to argue my point everytime. It only goes to show how unsure you are of yourself and how unconvincing you feel it to be, thus the need to prove a link for every single point. Unless it was data, then it’s a different thing. You need to back it up. But opinions? Come on!

    There are many links out there. Many sources. Most of those are also based on personal opinions mind you. Which do you choose to read? Mostly the ones leaning towards the Republican. We read, we analyse, we rationalise, and ultimately with common sense and open mind, we come up with our own personal opinion based on these sources.

    Come on scott, for once be brave and come up with your own SOUND opinions, instead of cowering behind every single republican backed link, wearing it like a badge, as if it were the word of GOD or some ultimate truth. Unless of course you are just being led blindly… which I think you are. For someone to think highly of Palin, it’s really hard to take that person seriously anymore. I used to have respect for McCain, that is until his choice for Palin.

    Several points you have made in your article, which made me feel you an extremely biased person and not only that, you aren’t very astute in your observations.

    1. Claiming Fox as the MOST balanced US media. You didn’t even know Rupert Murdoch owned Fox when I asked you that question. Otherwise you could hv answered it in a heart beat.
    2. Blaming Obama for stockmarket dip when he’s not even officially in the oval office yet and not to mention the economic crisis had already begun many months ago due to the sub prime mortgage crisis!
    3. Stating palin as beneficial to the republican … singing her praises…come on, scott, you expect others to take you seriously???? you are in denial dude. serious denial .

    the list goes on….but i’ll stop here.

    I’m open for debate. One that’s not based on a single track mind. You seriously need to acknowledge these points like a man….

    ciao for now🙂

  72. Obama, Obama OBAMA! Says:

    Scott, i am talking about palin and you deviated to obama and biden. can’t we talk about palin?

    before jumping into conclusion about georgia and russia please read this

    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080818/ames2

    The War We Don’t Know By Mark Ames

    August 13, 2008

    Five days after Georgia invaded and seized the breakaway separatist region of South Ossetia, sparking a larger-scale Russian invasion to drive Georgian forces back and punish their leaders, Russia surprised its Western detractors by calling a halt to the country’s offensive. After all, the mainstream media, egged on by hawkish neocon pundits and their candidate John McCain, had everyone believing that Russia was hellbent on the full-scale annihilation and annexation of democratic Georgia.

    Up until now, this war was framed as a simple tale of Good Helpless Democratic Guy Georgia versus Bad Savage Fascist Guy Russia. In fact, it is far more complex than this, morally and historically. Then there are two concentric David and Goliath narratives here. The initial war pitted the Goliath Georgia–a nation of 4.4 million, with vastly superior numbers, equipment and training thanks to US and Israeli advisers–against David-Ossetia, with a population of between 50,000-70,000 and a local militia force that is barely battalion strength. Reports coming out of South Ossetia tell of Georgian rockets and artillery leveling every building in the capital city, Tskhinvali, and of Georgian troops lobbing grenades into bomb shelters and basements sheltering women and children. Although true casualty figures are hard to come by, reports that up to 2,000 Ossetians, mostly civilians, were killed are certainly believable, given the intensity of the initial Georgian bombardment, the wanton destruction of the city and surrounding regions and the generally savage nature of Caucasus warfare, a very personal game where old rules apply.

    But you don’t hear about this story from the Western media. Indeed, you hear little if anything about the Ossetians, who seem to hardly exist in the West’s eyes, even though their grievance is the root cause of this war.

    While Russia and America see the conflict in abstract terms about spheres of influence and protecting allies, for Ossetians, who still recall the centuries of massacres Georgians committed against them, it is highly personal. They will still recall the Georgian massacres in the early 1920s, when Georgia was briefly independent, which exterminated up to 8 percent of the Ossetian population. In 1990, when Georgia was again moving towards independence, the ultranationalist leader Zviad Gamsakhurdia abolished Ossetia’s limited autonomy, leading to another Ossetian rebellion that was only quelled by a peace agreement signed by Georgia, Russia and the Ossetians. Gamsakhurdia was subsequently deposed, and Georgia’s ethnic chauvinism was shelved until the rise of current president Mikhail Saakashvili in 2003.

    Ossetians have traditionally relied on their powerful northern neighbor Russia for protection against Georgia. The Georgians, in turn, have tried to counter Russian hegemony, for which they are no match, by aligning closely with the United States, finding friendly ears among old cold warriors and Bush-era neocons.

    When he first rose to prominence, the American-educated Saakashvili was often referred to as “Georgia’s Vladimir Zhirinovsky”–the Russian ultranationalist firebrand who once promised to retake Alaska. Although Saakashvili was subsequently rebranded as a Euro-democrat, he promised to reunite Georgia and bring his separatist regions to heel, by force if necessary, whether the aggrieved ethnic groups liked it or not.

    At the root of this conflict is a clash of two twentieth-century guiding principles in international relations. Georgia, backed by the West, is claiming its right as a sovereign nation to control the territory within its borders, a guiding principle since World War II. The Ossetians are claiming their right to self-determination, a guiding principle since World War I.

    These two guiding concepts for international relations–national sovereignty and the right to self-determination–are locked in a zero-sum battle in Georgia. Sometimes, the West takes the side of national sovereignty, as it is in the current war; other times, it sides with self-determination and redrawing of national borders, such as with Kosovo.

    In that 1999 war, the United States led a nearly three-month bombing campaign of Serbia in order to rescue a beleaguered minority, the Albanians, and carve out a new nation. Self-determination trumped national sovereignty, over the objections of Russia, China and numerous other countries.

    Why, Russians and Ossetians (not to mention separatist Abkhazians in Georgia’s western region) ask, should the same principle not be applied to them?

    The answer is clear: because we say so. That sort of logic, in an era of colossal American decline and simultaneous Russian resurgence, no longer works on the field.

    But sadly, this news hasn’t been conveyed to neocon hawks like Robert Kagan or to John McCain, who seem to still be living in 2002, when American military power was seen as the answer to all the world’s problems. There is even evidence to suggest that America encouraged Saakashvili to think he could solve this conflict by war. Ever since 2002, when American Green Berets dropped into Georgia to train its troops against phantom Al Qaeda cells, the Bush Administration has drawn the former Soviet nation closer into what appeared to be a military alliance, culminating in Georgia’s 2,000-man contribution to the Iraq coalition forces (the third-largest contingent), and American joint training exercises in July, just a few weeks before Georgia’s blitzkrieg attack on South Ossetia. In the UN, Russian attempts in the early hours of the war to pass a resolution calling for a cease-fire were shot down by American and British diplomats, who objected to the clause calling on both sides to “renounce violence”–exactly Saakashvili’s position.

    The question we must ask is: Are we willing to risk war, including nuclear holocaust, in order to fulfill the aspirations of Mikhail Saakashvili? While Bush and McCain speak of Saakashvili as if he’s a combination of Thomas Jefferson and Nelson Mandela, he’s seen by his own people as increasingly authoritarian and unbalanced. Last year, Saakashvili sent in his special forces to violently disperse opposition protesters in the capital city, followed by a declaration of martial law. He sacked the opposition television station (partly owned by Rupert Murdoch), exiled or jailed his political opponents, and stacked the courts with his own judges while removing neutral observers, leaving even onetime neocon cheerleaders like Bruce Jackson and Anne Applebaum feeling queasy. Hardly the image of the “small democratic nation” that everyone today touts.

    The Russian response has, of course, been disproportionate and heavy-handed–exactly what’s to be expected of them ever since Boris Yeltsin first showed the world how post-Soviet Russia fights its wars, starting with Chechnya in 1994. Georgia has been terrorized by indiscriminate aerial bombing and the constant threat of invasion by a vastly superior Russian force–eerily reminiscent of NATO’s campaign against Serbia in 1999. Indeed, many observers believe that the current Russian response is a direct blowback of the Kosovo campaign, which is why there are so many similarities.

    But what is the best way to respond? The neocons and even CNN reports talk about exploring military options, which is absurd given the consequences of war with nuclear-armed Russia. Woofing loudly like John McCain is likely to prove as effective as Bush’s woofing did with North Korea, before he was forced to crawl back to the negotiating table.

    In fact, one of the most effective ways America could respond to this crisis is by rethinking its entire geopolitical approach of the past two decades, which has been hegemonic, arrogant, hypocritical and reckless. If we set a better example, then we could at least reclaim the moral authority, or “soft power,” that we once had.

    Instead, we’ve left the world other more brutal lessons about geopolitical power and how to use it, and the Russians are showing they’ve learned from us well. One lesson they learned from Kosovo is that when you bomb a petty nationalist leader like Saakashvili or Milosevic, eventually–when the cease-fire is called and the sense of defeat settles in–the nationalist firebrand who brought them to defeat pays with his seat in power.

  73. Scott Thong Says:

    You can continue to assume your linkages are the best of your sources. I too hv my reliable sources but I don’t need to give a link to argue my point everytime. It only goes to show how unsure you are of yourself and how unconvincing you feel it to be, thus the need to prove a link for every single point. Unless it was data, then it’s a different thing. You need to back it up. But opinions? Come on!

    That’s the difference between opinion and fact.

    If I were to say that I think Conservatives like Palin, that is my opinion.

    But when I provide proof (photos or links to places with proper citations), that is a fact.

    Otherwise I could just blahblahblah about how Obama is a hermaphrodite, and that would count perfectly well by your standards.

    I seriously am stunned by the sheer bizarreness of your statement, It only goes to show how unsure you are of yourself and how unconvincing you feel it to be, thus the need to prove a link for every single point.

    If I were unconvinced by my points, how the heck would I be able to dig up so many links to prove them? Why would I provide you the opportunity to check those links and debunk the basis of my argument?

    I turn this accusation back upon you! Your arguments are so unconvincing, that NO EVIDENCE EXISTS to support them!

    There are many links out there. Many sources. Most of those are also based on personal opinions mind you. Which do you choose to read? Mostly the ones leaning towards the Republican. We read, we analyse, we rationalise, and ultimately with common sense and open mind, we come up with our own personal opinion based on these sources.

    But the point is, we are arguing on matters that have hard conclusions – not merely opinions!

    You say that FOX is biased. I counter with a NONPARTISAN study that actually surveys a number of news reports, calculates the numbers, and reports the result that FOX is not as biased as other media.

    You say that Palin is unpopular. I counter with coverage of her rallies where newspaper reporters describe THOUSANDS of supporters cheering her, and photos SHOWING the scene.

    These are solid facts. This is not some random blogger saying “I know for sure ten million people like Palin, trust me.”

    Yet these are not good enough for you. Instead, you use them to argue that I have poor arguments.

    Meanwhile, you contend that your statements are good enough without any verification.

    If I were to use your standard, then I could argue that Obama did not win the election. Anyone who says he won is just stating their opinion. If you show me statistics showing that he has the majority of the Electoral College and popular vote, I will dismiss them as It only goes to show how unsure you are of yourself and how unconvincing you feel it to be, thus the need to prove a link for every single point.

    WHAT I SAY IS TRUE BECAUSE I GIVE NO CITATIONS, IT PROVES THAT I AM SUPER CONFIDENT IT IS TRUE!!!!!

    Wouldn’t you call me a wingnut who refuses to accept reality if I were to do that to you?

    And that last italicized part is an exact quote from you.

    See how unreasonable you are currently being?

    (In fact, you are already questioning my acceptance of reality, even though I keep stating observable fact! What incentive do I now have to bother discussing things with logic and reason? I should start being just as unreasonable as you.)

    1. Claiming Fox as the MOST balanced US media. You didn’t even know Rupert Murdoch owned Fox when I asked you that question. Otherwise you could hv answered it in a heart beat.

    What does that fact change about my claim that FOX is the MOST balanced media? Rupert Murdoch owns it, sure, and that may make it biased towards the Right.

    But that doesn’t mean it isn’t still LESS BIASED than the other networks. Ergo, it is still the most balanced media, simply because all the other networks are so much more skewed!

    I and others have cited neutral studies that came to that conclusion. Judging by your refusal to acknowledge even such proof, I conclude that you are not open to facts that clash with your dogmatic worldview.

    2. Blaming Obama for stockmarket dip when he’s not even officially in the oval office yet and not to mention the economic crisis had already begun many months ago due to the sub prime mortgage crisis!

    You do know that the market is such that even RUMOURS can cause a crash?

    The shareholders are skittish of the mere fact that Obama is headed to the White House. Thus they are selling out now why the prices are still above water. Basic Stock Market Trading 101.

    It’s not a proven fact, but I never claimed it was.

    3. Stating palin as beneficial to the republican … singing her praises…come on, scott, you expect others to take you seriously???? you are in denial dude. serious denial .

    Denial of what? I admit Obama won. But I contend that Palin is highly popular with the Conservative base. To change it from my mere opinion to a fact, here’s a link to a petition to Palin that more than ten thousand have signed in just one day.

    Doesn’t thousands count as at least a little bit of support from the base?

    I contend that you are merely spouting opinion when you say Palin was not helpful to the Republicans, when the evidence shows that she was a major reason more Conservatives even bothered to show up on Election Day.

    I’m open for debate. One that’s not based on a single track mind. You seriously need to acknowledge these points like a man….

    Nice try. But I’m not so easily tricked. I refuse to acknowledge points like those which I know, and have PROVEN, to be demonstrably false.

    You are the one who needs to at least start backing up your OPINIONS with some proof. So far it’s just been “no one likes Palin” with no evidence that shows the truth of that statement.

    And as I said in my first response on FOX, you are not open to debate in the least – no matter how many links and citations I give, you dismiss them (probably without even checking them out) and go back to your same old talking points.

    If that is the case, it is impossible to have anhy meaningful debate with you – you return to square one as if I had made no argument at all.

    (Maybe I should call you Stuck In A Time Warp from now on.)

    And you even have the AUDACITY to say that I am the one ignoring reality??!!!

    —————————-

    In conclusion, you are an excellent example of Moonbat Logic: Whatever you say is truth, whatever I say (no matter how much citation or facts I give) is a delusion.

    No sane and rational person can argue with you on any meaningful level.

  74. Scott Thong Says:

    Obama, Obama OBAMA!, I could similarly say that this post is about Obama’s unsuitedness to lead. Yet I humour your commenting about McCain vs Palin and further comments questioning Palin’s capabilities.

    What I did was to point out that Obama and Biden have made many unintelligent remarks as well. Therefore, Palin is not relatively any worse than they are. Isn’t that a valid method?

    Thanks for the info on Russia-Georgia, but that doesn’t detract from my point on the lack of general knowledge Obama showed by referring the matter to the UN (if that was your intention).

    Even I knew that Russia is a permanent member with veto power when that newsbite appeared, and checked just to be sure. I’m sure if Obama (or his advisors) had even the slightest clue, they could have checked in under a minute as well.

    So it’s a combination of ignorance and arrogance – ignorance in not knowing about how the UN works and Russia’s seat on it, and arrogance in not bothering to check if what he assumed was accurate.

    Btw, how do we know that what certain anonymous McCain staffers said about Palin vis-a-vis Africa is really true? I know the Obama-Russia thing is true because actual video exists of him saying it, and I watched it.

    Anyhow… I seriously prefer discussions with you over ihateidiots. See above for why and tell me, viewpoints on Obama/Palin aside… Is it really just me, or is he being quite the unreasonable chap?

  75. Obama, Obama OBAMA! Says:

    if you read the article i have posted for you carefully. you would know why obama made the decision the way he does.

  76. Obama, Obama OBAMA! Says:

    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081020/ames_berman

    Over the course of the presidential campaign, John McCain has repeatedly emphasized his willingness to stand up to Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin as proof that only he possesses the fortitude and judgment to become the next leader of the free world. In his acceptance speech at the Republican convention, McCain lashed out at Putin and the Russian oligarchs, who, “rich with oil wealth and corrupt with power…[are] reassembling the old Russian Empire.” McCain rushed to publicly support the Georgian republic during its recent conflict with Russia and amplified his threat to expel Moscow from the G-8 club of major powers. His running mate, Sarah Palin, suggested in her first major interview that the United States might have to go to war with Russia one day in order to protect Georgia–the kind of apocalyptic scenario the United States avoided during the cold war.

    Yet despite McCain’s tough talk, behind the scenes his top advisers have cultivated deep ties with Russia’s oligarchy–indeed, they have promoted the Kremlin’s geopolitical and economic interests, as well as some of its most unsavory business figures, through greedy cynicism and geopolitical stupor. The most notable example is the tale of how McCain and his campaign manager, Rick Davis, advanced what became a key victory for the Kremlin: gaining control over the small but strategically important country of Montenegro.

    According to two former senior US diplomats who served in the Balkans, Davis and his lobbying firm, Davis Manafort, received several million dollars to help run Montenegro’s independence referendum campaign of 2006. The terms of the agreement were never disclosed to the public, but top Montenegrin officials told the US diplomats that Davis’s work was underwritten by powerful Russian business interests connected to the Kremlin and operating in Montenegro. Neither Davis nor the McCain campaign responded to repeated requests for comment. (Davis’s extensive lobbying work, especially on behalf of collapsed mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, has already attracted critical media scrutiny.)

    At the time, Putin wanted to establish a Russian outpost in the Mediterranean, and Montenegro–a coastal republic across the Adriatic from Italy–was seen as his best hope. McCain also lobbied for Montenegro’s independence from Serbia, calling it “the greatest European democracy project since the end of the cold war.” For McCain, the simplistic notion of “independence” from a country America had gone to war with in the late 1990s was all that mattered. What Montenegro looked like after independence seemed not to interest him. This suited Putin just fine. Russia had generally sided with Serbia against the West during the Balkan wars of the 1990s, but for the Kremlin, cutting Montenegro free from Serbia meant dealing with a Montenegro that could be more easily controlled. Indeed, today, after its “independence,” Montenegro is nicknamed “Moscow by the Mediterranean.” Russian oligarchs control huge chunks of the country’s industry and prized coastline–and Russians exert a powerful influence over the country’s political culture. “Montenegro is almost a new Russian colony, as rubles flow in to buy property and business in the tiny state,” Denis MacShane, Tony Blair’s former Europe minister, wrote in Newsweek in June. The takeover of Montenegro has been a Russian geostrategic victory–quietly accomplished, paradoxically enough, with the help of McCain and his top aides.

    In mid-September The Nation’s website published a photo of McCain celebrating his seventieth birthday in Montenegro in August 2006 at a yacht party hosted by convicted Italian felon Raffaello Follieri and his movie-star girlfriend Anne Hathaway. On the same day one of the largest mega-yachts in the world, the Queen K, was moored in the same bay of Kotor. This was where the real party was. The owner of the Queen K was known as “Putin’s oligarch”: Oleg Deripaska, controlling shareholder of the Russian aluminum giant RusAl, currently listed as the ninth-richest man in the world, with a rap sheet as abundant as his wealth. By mid-2005 Deripaska had already virtually taken control of Montenegro’s economy by snapping up its aluminum plant, KAP–which accounts for up to 40 percent of the country’s GDP and some 80 percent of its export earnings–in a nontransparent privatization tender strongly criticized by NGO watchdogs, Montenegrin politicians and journalists. The Nation has learned that Deripaska told one of his closest associates that he bought the plant “because Putin encouraged him to do it.” The reason: “the Kremlin wanted an area of influence in the Mediterranean.”

    In mid-2005 Ambassador Richard Sklar, the former lead US official in the Balkans, ceased advising the Montenegrin government (he’d worked as a pro bono adviser after leaving the US diplomatic service) when it became clear the plant was being handed to Deripaska under heavy Russian pressure. “I quit because it was a bad deal, not for any political reasons. The Russians scared all the other buyers off. They offered far too little money and got themselves a sweetheart deal.”

    Russia’s virtual takeover of Montenegro was well under way by January 2006, when Rick Davis introduced Deripaska to McCain at a villa in Davos, Switzerland. They met again seven months later, at a reception in Montenegro celebrating McCain’s birthday, as reported in the Washington Post.

    The story of how Oleg Deripaska, 40, rose from a Cossack village to become a Putin-blessed aluminum tycoon with an estimated $40 billion fortune does not begin with a lemonade stand and old-fashioned elbow grease. Like most post-Soviet success stories, Deripaska’s rise began abruptly and violently, during the chaotic reign of Boris Yeltsin. Among all the battles for control of valuable state assets in the 1990s, none were as bloody as the “aluminum wars,” in which organized-crime gangs hired by competing interests assassinated dozens of executives, shareholders and bankers. During a visit to the United States in 1995, Deripaska threatened the lives of two aluminum rivals, Yuri and Mikhail Zhivilo, according to a RICO lawsuit filed against Deripaska in New York district court in 2000. The RICO case is just one of many lawsuits, including one filed in Israel by a former business partner claiming that Deripaska illegally wiretapped an Israeli cabinet minister. In addition, German prosecutors have begun a criminal money-laundering investigation in Stuttgart. (Deripaska did not respond to requests for comment.)

    Deripaska understands that success in Russia today comes from a mixture of brute force, political influence and personal connections. In 2001, about a year after Putin signed a decree granting legal immunity to Yeltsin’s family, Deripaska married Yeltsin’s granddaughter, thereby cementing his own immunity and power. Throughout Putin’s reign, Deripaska has adhered to an unwritten understanding between Putin and the oligarchs: as long as they support the Kremlin, they can operate with impunity. Deripaska has thus taken on numerous projects dear to Putin, such as building a new airport in Sochi for the 2014 Olympics and buying out Tajikistan’s aluminum plant to help Putin reassert control over that key ex-Soviet republic. Deripaska openly admits that his RusAl holdings are subservient to the Kremlin’s wishes, telling the Financial Times last year, “If the state says we need to give it up, we’ll give it up.”

    Yet Deripaska faced a serious obstacle to his business ambitions, hampering his duties as a Putin surrogate. Because of numerous accusations of involvement in death threats, extortion, racketeering and money laundering, he had been barred from entering America since 1998. Putin has lobbied for Deripaska’s US visa. In an interview with Le Monde earlier this year, Putin complained, “I have asked my American colleagues why. If you have reasons for not delivering him a visa, if you have documents on illegal activities, give us them…. They give us nothing, explain to us nothing, and forbid him from entry.”

    The visa ban was costing Deripaska billions: for years he and fellow RusAl shareholders had sought to cash in their wealth by launching an IPO in London, which could have netted up to $10 billion for RusAl’s owners. However, finding institutional buyers would be difficult if not impossible as long as RusAl’s primary owner was barred from entering the United States.

    Despite rampant Russophobia among Republicans, Deripaska turned to powerful GOP figures to solve his problem–especially to Republicans connected with McCain. In 2003 Deripaska hired former presidential candidate Bob Dole, who had nearly picked McCain as his running mate, and Dole’s lobbying partner Bruce Jackson (also a McCain aide) to lobby the State Department to overturn the visa ban, according to Glenn Simpson and Mary Jacoby of the Wall Street Journal. Over the next few years Dole’s firm, Alston & Bird, was paid more than $500,000 to push for Deripaska’s visa.

    Deripaska also reached out to a Washington-based intelligence firm, Diligence, chaired by GOP foreign policy hand Richard Burt, McCain’s top foreign policy adviser in 2000 and an adviser in ’08 (Burt left Diligence in 2007 to join Henry Kissinger’s consulting firm). Deripaska’s business partner in London, Nathaniel Rothschild, an heir to the English Rothschild fortune, bought a stake in Diligence, according to the New York Times and confirmed by a Rothschild spokesman. The firm offered Deripaska many useful services: corporate intelligence gathering, visa lobbying through considerable GOP connections and, crucially, help in obtaining a $150 million World Bank/European Bank for Reconstruction and Development loan for a Deripaska subsidiary, the Komi Aluminum Project. Getting the loan was useful in providing a layer of comfort to Western investors skittish about RusAl. So Diligence, now partly owned by Rothschild, provided a “due diligence” report to the World Bank, which the Bank then used to approve its loan to Deripaska.

    Not surprisingly, the lobbying worked: in December 2005 Deripaska was issued a multientry US visa, according to the State Department. During his brief stay he signed his World Bank loan, spoke at a Carnegie Endowment meeting and attended a dinner for Harvard University’s Belfer Center, where, thanks to a generous donation, he became a member of its international council.

    However, Deripaska’s trip did not end well. Under the visa’s terms, he was forced to endure lengthy FBI questioning. According to the mining-industry newsletter Mineweb, the list of his enemies had grown from jilted former business partners to the heads of powerful US metals companies and government officials unhappy with RusAl’s control of key Third World bauxite mines, which threatened beleaguered US aluminum giants. The interview went badly–according to people who know him, Deripaska had little patience for prying bureaucrats. When he left the country, the visa ban was reinstated. Once again Deripaska turned to powerful Republicans–this time, to McCain and campaign manager Davis, who arranged the January 2006 Davos introduction. The McCain campaign later claimed that “any contact between Mr. Deripaska and the senator was social and incidental,” but afterward Deripaska thanked Davis for arranging “such an intimate setting.” The Washington Post reported that Davis was “seeking to do business with the billionaire.” Indeed, Deripaska’s subsequent thank-you letter mentioned his possible investment in a metals company Davis represented through a hedge-fund client.

  77. Scott Thong Says:

    Explain that to me, because I don’t get it – Obama could have talked about dialogue and diplomacy, but why did he bring up the UN if he knew that Russia sits on the veto and would immediately have nullified any discussions?

    Besides, after McCain said to call in NATO and got a modestly good response, Obama reminded everyone about how he had been championing Georgia’s entry into NATO. Kind of deflates the argument that Obama thought along the lines of your article.

    “I have consistently called for deepening relations between Georgia and transatlantic institutions, including a Membership Action Plan for NATO, and we must continue to press for that deeper relationship.”

    Russia knows exactly how Obama works. Right after he won the Election, they declared their intent to disable any missile shields. They expect Obama to back down, or… Call the UN in.

  78. ihateidiots Says:

    Well said Obama Obama Obama!🙂 Especially your argument on the Russia Georgia crisis.

    Oh I see scott, they are backed by links and mine isn’t so, so, so that means yours is the word of GOD😀 and your statements are facts right? All hail links! Truly enlightened here.

    No link you post to BACK these up is going to convince anyone.

    1. Barack Hussein Obama, welcome to at least four years the Bush treatment!
    (You seem to favour baseless premonitions like this one for instance, oh is that so? I see so obama in your words is GOING to be like bush eh? gee i didn’t know that. thanks for highlighting that in your blog! )

    2. Although the Dow isn’t exactly giggling at the antics… 500 point drop AT Obama’s win.
    (you blame obama for dow’s drop, the last time i checked recession already hit before obama won?! but oh no, you supported it with a link given fm another disillusioned wits0 so yeah it must be the word of GOD)

    and here’s another thing you wrote to back up your claim as to why the stock market dropped due to obama’s win.

    “But here’s the thing about the stock market – perception defines reality.”
    It MAY or MAY NOT scott.

    3. while Palin has 4 years to brush up on her knowledge before trying again.
    (right after 4 years she is so going to be THE expert after 4 years of polishing up her knowledge! another enlightening statement by scotthong’s blog! only you scott, only you can make such absurd and again BASELESS presumptions!)

    ohh and the list goes on but i admit i’m rather lazy by nature….esp with someone like you who continuously assumes and presumes and makes baseless and ridiculous statements for the sake of it. you’re attacking obama for the sake of it. you are prejudging him and i think it’s not right as a christian to judge a person is thatnow? scott?

    …err…the last time I checked..I never made any claims, I’m merely giving another side of the story and refuting YOUR dumbfounding statements and premonitions scott.

  79. Obama, Obama OBAMA! Says:

    correction it was US the one who first veto any action on georgia when georgia attack south ossetia, before russia took any military action on georgia. russia requested UN intervention.

  80. Awww Pleeeeeeease Says:

    Ford posts 3Q loss of $129M, burns through $7.7B in cash, plans 2,200 more salaried job cuts

    http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081107/earns_ford.html

  81. Awww Pleeeeeeease Says:

    Job losses soar, jobless rate at 14-year high
    http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE4A60GV20081107

    Obama`s wealth redistribution is urgently needed. Joe the plumber will pay more to allow for affordable smack in harlem

  82. Awww Pleeeeeeease Says:

    Chrysler LLC is rapidly burning through cash and being driven to prepare for a possible break-up if it can’t clinch a merger with General Motors Corp or get government funding needed to ride out the economic crisis, people with knowledge of the situation said.

    Without new funding or a wrenching restructuring, executives have raised concern about the automaker’s ability to finance its operations from existing cash beyond the first half of 2009, said the sources, who were not authorized to discuss Chrysler’s performance.

    Chrysler has had to pay out over $100 million a month to support strained suppliers on top of a total $200 million support to sales through dealers in August and September as it suspended vehicle lease financing, the sources said.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE4A610I20081107

  83. Awww Pleeeeeeease Says:

    Oh you have got to admire the ability of the media to shift gears from unquestioned and unbridled love to suddenly becoming a million microscopes of check and balance. You’ve also got to admire Pres-elect Obama’s ability to find quality people-people who will CHANGE Washington-not:

    “President-elect Barack Obama’s newly appointed chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, served on the board of directors of the federal mortgage firm Freddie Mac at a time when scandal was brewing at the troubled agency and the board failed to spot “red flags,” according to government reports reviewed by ABCNews.com.”

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=6201900&page=1

  84. cigar time Says:

    Newsweek is reporting that President-Elect Obama has appointed an “Advisory Board” for his transition. The roster of the Advisory Board is:

    Carol Browner-Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency under Bill Clinton.

    William Daley-Clinton confidant and Secretary of Commerce under Bill Clinton.

    Christopher Edley-Deputy Director, Office of Management and Budget under Bill Clinton

    Michael Frorman-Senior Aide to Clinton Secretary of the Treasury, Robert Rubin

    Julius Genachowski-Senior Staff member of the FCC under Bill Clinton.

    Donald Gips-Cheif Domestic Policy Advisor for Vice President Al Gore.

    Janet Napolitano-Governor of Arizona

    Federico Peña-Secretary of Transportation under Bill Clinton

    Susan Rice- Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs under Bill Clinton

    Sonal Shah-Assistant Under Secretary of the Treasury under Bill Clinton

    Ted Kaufman-Chief of Staff for Joe Biden and Clinton Appointee to Broadcasting Board of Governors (Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty, Radio Marti and Voice of America)

    Mark Gitenstein-Chief Counsel, Senate Judiciary Committee and Senate Intelligence Committee.
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………….
    Did I hear something about the possibility that an Obama Administration might resemble a Clinton Administration or am I just hallucinating?

  85. cigar time Says:

    Yesterday’s ‘hopeful’ Americans have been SO screwed over. After reading the potential list of appointees to the Obama administration’s transition team, I have lost all hope for your rational national future. Emanuel is only the most despicable choice in a long list of dangerous people who should never have been allowed near the reins of power in a country as emotionally damaged, media-manipulated, overly militarized and under-educated as the United States.

    You poor bastards.

  86. WigWag Says:

    Here’s a great new test for President-Elect Obama and Chief of Staff Emanuel. According to Bloomberg News, Representative Henry Waxman, a California Democrat, is making a bid to replace Representative John Dingell as head of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

    The battle pits Waxman, the chairman of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform and the 12th-most senior House lawmaker, against Dingell, 82, the most senior House member.

    Waxman is universally recognized as an environmentalist and a progressive on energy issues. Dingell, in addition to being an ornery bastard is am apologist for the automobile industry (he’s from Michigan) and he’s the National Rifle Association’s favorite Democrat.

    Obama’s energy plan will have to go through Energy and Commerce Committee and so will any rescue of General Motors or Ford. The Committee also has jurisdiction over alot of environmental legislation.

    Dingell is skeptical of global warming and has fiercely resisted increasing CAFE standards. Waxman would be a huge improvement.

    Obama and Emanuel need to help push Dingell out so Waxman can assume the chairmanship of this Committee.

    When Trent Lott (who was Senate Majority leader) put his foot in his mouth by complimenting Strom Thurmond, the Bush Administration intervened to move him out and they installed Bill Frist as Majority Leader in the Senate.

    It would be a great step forward for the environment and energy policy if the Obama Administration emulated the Bush Administration in this regard and moved Dingell out and moved Waxman in.

  87. Marilyn Says:

    The choice of Rahm Emanuel is frightening.
    He is as left-wing partisan as anyone can posibly be. Emanuel is behind the handshake between Yassir Arafat (head of the terrorist PLO organization) and Rabin. He would not hesitate to give away Israel’s Golan Heights as a gesture of peace during the next Ramadan season…Obama is fast showing his true colors.

  88. patrick Says:

    If Palin runs for President in 2012, at least she has name recognition going for her… but that may not work in her favor

  89. Obamafarkself Says:

    Really slick move insulting the ailing former First Lady while holding your first softball, Twinkie-munch session with the fawning press.

    Sorry, but this weak apology isn’t quite cutting it.
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    President-elect Barack Obama called Nancy Reagan this afternoon to apologize for a joke about her having held “séances” in the White House, an Obama aide said.

    “President-elect Barack Obama called Nancy Reagan today to apologize for the careless and off handed remark he made during today’s press conference,” said transition spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter. “The President-elect expressed his admiration and affection for Mrs. Reagan that so many Americans share and they had a warm conversation.”

    Obama was asked at his press conference today if he’d spoken to all the “living” presidents.

    “I have spoken to all of them who are living,” he responded. “I didn’t want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any séances.”
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    Warm admiration, my ass.

    Ironic, isn’t it, how he lamely invoked Ronald Reagan’s name wherever he could during his campaign, then goes out of his way to throw a cheap shot at a woman who just broke her hip.

    Meanwhile, the petty trainee avoided Fox News during this “press conference,” giving his press secretary Nedra Pickler the first question.

    This childish obsession over Fox News is really beneath the dignity of the White House. George W. Bush has been mercilessly pummelled by most of the media during his term but has never acted so petulantly about any media outlets.

    Obama needs to grow up before he actually assumes office. If he’s going to whine and snivel like a little bitch about Fox, then he just doesn’t have the chops to be a credible leader.

    Joe the Biden claimed Obama has a spine of steel. He might want to try demonstrating that.

  90. Obamafarkself Says:

    Obama to introduce slavery:

    “Community service”? Yep, mandatory

    Well, that didn’t take long. Coyote spots language on the Obama transition site that seems to make explicit what was left studiously vague during the campaign:

    Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year.

  91. Scott Thong Says:

    Oh I see scott, they are backed by links and mine isn’t so, so, so that means yours is the word of GOD and your statements are facts right? All hail links! Truly enlightened here. – ihateidiots

    Lousy try, noob. You present a straw man argument. I never claimed that providing links makes a statement infallible, merely that it solidifies the claim.

    1. Barack Hussein Obama, welcome to at least four years the Bush treatment!
    (You seem to favour baseless premonitions like this one for instance, oh is that so? I see so obama in your words is GOING to be like bush eh? gee i didn’t know that. thanks for highlighting that in your blog! )

    You display both lack of understanding and great assumptions.

    My remark is referring to the Bush-bashing that liberals poured out for 8 years. See this post for examples.

    I mean, for once, click a link I post – it’s mocking Bush, you’d actually like it!

    2. Although the Dow isn’t exactly giggling at the antics… 500 point drop AT Obama’s win.
    (you blame obama for dow’s drop, the last time i checked recession already hit before obama won?! but oh no, you supported it with a link given fm another disillusioned wits0 so yeah it must be the word of GOD

    What, the link leads to wits0 and not to CNN? I though you said CNN was super neutral and balanced and whatnot.

    “But here’s the thing about the stock market – perception defines reality.”
    It MAY or MAY NOT scott

    See this: Harry Reid says insurance company going bankrupt, sparks massive sell off

    Just a joke, he later said. But the market perceived it as real, and crashed in response.

    you are prejudging him and i think it’s not right as a christian to judge a person is thatnow? scott?

    Lol! Yet another Moonbat trying to lecture me about Christianity, the religion that they most despise except when using it to force Christians to behave the way they want?

    Shall I even bother to give you a lesson on Scripture? In short, if I judge, I must be prepared to be judged. No great worry on my part, you’ve been judging me for days now.

    But I suppose it’s okay for you to judge, right?

    …err…the last time I checked..I never made any claims, I’m merely giving another side of the story and refuting YOUR dumbfounding statements and premonitions scott.

    Never made any claims? Saying Palin harmed McCain’s campaign and that no one supports her is a claim.

    You didn’t refute most of what I said – instead, I rebutted your attacks.

    I showed how thousands rallied for Palin and how more than 10,000 people have signed a petition to thank Palin in just two days.

    Heck, you aren’t even a Conservative! What do you know about whether or not Conservatives like Palin? The mere fact that you, an Obamatron, dislike her so vehemently is evidence that your polar opposites love her!

    I also gave a neutral study that showed FOX to be less biased than even CNN.

    What exactly have you refuted me on, successfully?

    You really do seem like a typical Moonbat troll – where losing looks like winning to you, and victory is claimed when you’re bleeding (to wit: Iraq).

  92. Obama, Obama OBAMA! Says:

    what is there to like about palin? really? apart from being pretty, look hell a lot like tina fey, handsome husband, adorable kids. How would she be able to lead the country? She was given a chance to prepare herself before katie couric’s interview on economics and foreign policy yet she vehemently denies preparing herself for this. she thought africa was a country and that south africa was just the souther part of an african country. yes she can unite the ultra conservative but can she unite and lead the country? she first have to win over moderate conservatives, independents, centrists and reagan democrats, but can she?

    I have enough of Obama bashing, i will like to be enlightened how Palin is a great leader if you are able to answer the questions aforementioned, i will be greatful and probably be a palin enthusiast.

  93. JOAQUIN GALLEGOS Says:

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  94. who cares Says:

    “i will be greatful and probably be a palin enthusiast.”

    Nobody cares, you`d be betr off changing obumbler`s nappies

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