What to Do to Get Israel to Do This and That


So you think Israel – that nation of ‘bullies, imperialists, Zionists, brutalities, illegal occupiers, human rights abusers’ etc. – should concede something?

Israel says: You first.

Here’s what they mean…

You say: Israel should tear down the apartheid wall, open up the borders with Gaza and end the inhumane embargo!
Israel says: If Palestinians stop sending suicide bombers and gunmen across the border to kill schoolchildren on buses, then we won’t need to restrict entry in the first place.

You say: Israel should let the aid convoys through to supply starving Gaza!
Israel says: If Hamas would stop using the resources to build and launch rockets at us, we would have no reason to check through every last item coming in to Gaza. Which has plenty of supplies delivered by us daily, by the way. And hey, wonder why Egypt tightly controls their border with Gaza too?

You say: Israel should use only proportionate responses when ‘retaliating’ against Hamas – air strikes, tanks and helicopter gunships are far more brutal than unguided rockets!
Israel says: If you’d prefer that Israel launch an unguided rocket into Gaza for every rocket from Gaza that lands in Israel, no problem – that would save us a lot of resources, manpower and world opinion. Maybe the UN will actually side with us for a change.

You say: Israel should recognize Hamas as the democratically elected representative of the Palestinian people!
Israel says: Sure thing, just as soon as Hamas changes its official charter that currently calls for the total destruction of Israel. Until that happens, Hamas is by its own choice defined as a mortal enemy of Israel.

You say: Israel should grant the unconditional right of return to all Palestinians who were driven from their homes and all their descendants and the descendants of their descendants etc.! They must also be given democratic voting rights!
Israel says: Not a problem, as long as all Jews and their descendants who originate from the area (in other words, all 13.2 million of the Jews in the world) have the same privilege.

You say: Israel should give back the land to the Palestinians and retreat to the 1967/1948 borders!
Israel says: If the surrounding Arab nations will never ever attempt to attack, invade and conquer Israel again – which, if you’ll remember, is what led to Israel defeating them and capturing the land in war in the first place – then sure!

You say: Israel should obey the many UN resolutions that condemn its brutal actions!
Israel says: If Hamas similarly obeys the UN resolutions calling for an end to all hostilities, and the Palestinians and Arab states and Muslim world similarly respect the 1948 UN resolution ratified by more than 2/3 of a majority vote that created Israel in the first place, and no one kicks out UN peacekeeping forces the way Egypt did prior to the 1967 war… Then of course Israel will start paying attention to the UN.

You say: America should stop its biased, unobjective, unquestioning, blind support of Israel!
Israel says: If the Muslims of the world can stop their biased, unobjective, unquestioning, blind support of the Palestinians just because they are Muslim, then… Um, well, good luck with that!

You say: Israel should give back the land, homes and rights of all the Palestinian refugees displaced by the Zionist entity since 1948, as well as their descendants!
Israel says: If a similar arrangement can be worked out for all the Jews who were kicked and chased out of the surrounding Arab nations during the same time span… Good luck with that too.

You say: Israel should stop forcing the Palestinians to live in squalorous, crowded refugee camps!
Israel says: If the surrounding Arab nations would have accepted the Palestinians into their lands back in 1948, or even today, then this would not be an issue. Then again, if the Palestinians who are allowed into those nations wouldn’t try and overthrow the host country the way they tried with Jordan…

You say: Israel should return Jerusalem to its rightful Muslim owners! The Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aqsa mosque are the third most holy site in Islam!
Israel says: Jerusalem? You mean the city mentioned by name 657 times in the Old Testament and about ZERO times by name in the Quran? The site of the Second Temple of the Jews is the first most holy site to Jews. Yet we still allow the Muslims to have their ‘third most holy site’ sit on top of the ruins of our Wailing Wall! You still have Mecca and Medina. What do we have?

You say: Israel and all the Jews should just die already!
Israel says: At least you’re finally being honest. However, we’re pretty much used to this being the reality of life for, oh, say… 2000 to 3000 years. Not gonna happen.

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In conclusion, you really should stop assuming that Israel intentionally wants to cause trouble, pick a fight and brutalize the Palestinians. They have good reasons for doing the things they do.

After all, the Jews are accused of many things… But seldom are they ever accused of being stupid.

See also this pictorial history of the creation of Israel.


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15 Responses to “What to Do to Get Israel to Do This and That”

  1. hutchrun Says:

    Israel is constantly confronted with the demand that it must return Gaza and the West Bank to the Palestinians and the Golan Heights to Syria – areas seized during the 1967 Six-Day War. Why then do we never hear that same argument being raised against other nations? After World War II, Poland annexed 10% of historic Germany (East Prussia); Morocco controls the Western Sahara; Armenia has controlled 15% of neighboring Azerbaijan since 1994; Turkey has controlled half of Cyprus since its 1974 invasion; Russia has controlled the Kurile Islands off northern Japan for 63 years and China has occupied Tibet since 1950. So, where is the international outcry demanding that these countries return lands they seized in war? Why is it that only Israel’s control over the West Bank merits international censure?

    http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2115/pub_detail.asp

  2. hutchrun Says:

    Egypt’s official Al-Ahram newspaper kept up the war of words between Hassan Nasrallah and Egypt, saying that while Egypt works quietly towards a truce in Gaza, Nasrallah is screaming from his underground hiding place that Gaza will be a graveyard for the Zionist invaders without doing anything to help. The writer sarcastically notes that Hezbollah is “bravely” confronting the occupation from their satellite channels. The editorial ended with a veiled threat towards Hezbollah, reminding them that they are still a group of fighters while Egypt has an entire army.

    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ar|en&u=http://fpnp.net/arabic/%3Faction%3Ddetail%26id%3D16586&tbb=1

  3. hutchrun Says:

    Egypt’s official Al-Ahram newspaper kept up the war of words between Hassan Nasrallah and Egypt, saying that while Egypt works quietly towards a truce in Gaza, Nasrallah is screaming from his underground hiding place that Gaza will be a graveyard for the Zionist invaders without doing anything to help. The writer sarcastically notes that Hezbollah is “bravely” confronting the occupation from their satellite channels. The editorial ended with a veiled threat towards Hezbollah, reminding them that they are still a group of fighters while Egypt has an entire army.

    translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ar|en&u=http://fpnp.net/arabic/%3Faction%3Ddetail%26id%3D16586&tbb=1

  4. wits0 Says:

    If, because of HizzyBull, Egypt gets into a loggerhead with Iran, who will Bolehland side?

    Scene we would like to see.

  5. ktula Says:

    The Gaza blame game:

    How to be stupid . . .
    . . . Hamas style

    Refuse to recognize Israel. Remind the world that the establishment of Israel in 1948 was accompanied by the often violent displacement of 700,000 Palestinians, but ignore the fact that more than 60 years have gone by, making it a bit late for a do-over. Ignore the fact that most Israelis weren’t even born in 1948, and that Israel is recognized as legitimate by an overwhelming majority of the world’s states. Keep insisting on its destruction.

    Use suicide bombings and rocket attacks on civilian targets as a method of warfare. Don’t stick to military targets. Instead, blow up civilians on buses and in cafes. Adopting a deliberate policy of war crimes and crimes against humanity helps ensure that few of the world’s governments will want to go anywhere near you.

    Get into vicious factional battles with fellow Palestinians. Why present a united front when you can fight with each other? Constant infighting gives the Israelis yet another reason to consider you a worthless interlocutor. And by driving rival party Fatah out of town, you can drive a wedge between Palestinians and give many Arab governments another reason to hope you fail.

    Keep that cycle of violence going! The Israelis killed a Palestinian? Quick, fire a barrage of rockets toward Israel. You know they’ll respond with even greater force. Be stubborn and keep up those rocket attacks! Israeli bombs can’t tell the difference between your fighters and Gaza’s schoolchildren. Let the civilians pay the price for your “brave” resistance.

    . . . Israel style

    Never pass up a chance to rub salt in open wounds. Keep on building settlements in occupied territory. Stuff like that. Ya know?

    Undermine and isolate potential interlocutors who might be able to represent the Palestinians. First, destroy Palestinian Authority infrastructure and withhold funds and supplies needed for critical social services, thus helping to push ordinary Palestinians into the arms of Hamas, with its ample social services programs funded by Iran and private Arab donors. Then, when Hamas wins Palestinian elections, isolate Gaza and undermine Hamas.

    Be trigger happy. A recent statistical analysis by three academics (one at MIT, one at Harvard and one from Tel Aviv University) found that an overwhelming majority of lulls in violence since 2000 (when the second intifada began) ended when Israelis killed Palestinians, sparking renewed tit-for-tat violence. According to Nancy Kanwisher, Johannes Haushofer and Anat Biletzki, “79% of all conflict pauses were interrupted when Israel killed a Palestinian, while only 8% were interrupted by Palestinian attacks.” The pattern was “more pronounced for longer conflict pauses. … Of the 25 periods of nonviolence lasting longer than a week, Israel unilaterally interrupted 24, or 96%.” Always give war a chance!

    Carry out intense aerial attacks on densely populated civilian areas. Civilians in the Gaza Strip are fenced in — the sea on the west and heavily guarded borders on the land perimeter. As Mads Gilbert, a Norwegian surgeon working at a Gaza hospital, put it, the aerial bombardment of Gaza is like “bombing 1 1/2 million people in a cage.”

    Heavy civilian casualties are inevitable — like those from the Israeli strikes on Tuesday that damaged three United Nations schools, killing at least 48.

    Complain about unfair media coverage, but don’t let any Israeli or foreign journalists into Gaza (in defiance of the Israeli Supreme Court, which has ordered that a limited number of journalists must be allowed in). That way, nearly all news coming out of Gaza will come from Palestinian journalists.

    Don’t have a plan. Start bombing Gaza to eliminate the Hamas capacity to fire rockets and mortars at Israel. Realize, as the Palestinian death toll approaches 700, that Hamas rocket attacks on Israel are still ongoing, there’s no obvious military solution short of leveling Gaza, international dismay is rising, and you don’t really have a game plan. Continue to play it by ear — it’s just a war.

    . . . Bush style

    Avoid opportunities to push for a rapid end to the conflict. Wring your hands every now and then, but don’t engage seriously with European, Turkish or Arab actors anxious to propose compromises that could end the conflict. Block a U.N. Security Council resolution calling for a temporary cease-fire on the grounds that it doesn’t offer a durable solution.

    In general, sit back and relax. It’s just the Middle East exploding again. It’s just a harbinger of ongoing suffering, regional instability and global terrorism. No big deal. Let the new guy handle it.

    . . . Palestinian civilian style

    Be born in Gaza. Well, that was dumb of you, wasn’t it? Next time, try to be born in London or San Francisco.

  6. ktula Says:

    Forgot to include the link to the original article:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-brooks8-2009jan08,0,4823248.column?track=notottext

  7. wits0 Says:

    http://tinyurl.com/7b88b3
    Egypt vs. Hamas (and the Moslem Brotherhood)

    Hamas decided to go to war in the aftermath of the tahadiya (calm) by firing dozens of rockets into Israel each day for over a week (eventually reaching a daily count of 60). The hope was to rally the Arab/Islamic world to their side, very similar to Yasir Arafat’s strategy when he turned down the Camp David peace initiative and the Clinton Outline during the second half of 2000. The Palestinian Authority’s Low Intensity Conflict/Terror Offensive – better known as the “Second Intifada” in popular journalistic terminology failed miserably yet Hamas hopes to succeed as they expect an increasingly Islamicized Arab world to come to their aid.

    But Hamas could not do it on their own. With some 500 tunnels connecting the Egyptian border with southern Gaza at Rafiah, weapons, ammunition and massive amounts of explosives passed underground into Hamas hands. Cairo refused to take any serious action to halt the smuggling when a simple blockade to the west of Egyptian Rafiah was all that was necessary before the contraband made its way underground. It appears Egypt wanted to avoid a showdown with Hamas and its own Moslem Brotherhood who gained increased support in the last election. To allow a smoldering border war between Hamas and Israel seemed to be preferable as opposed to trying to repress the Islamists and possibly facing an explosion on the streets of Cairo.

    But Hamas as a faction of the Moslem Brotherhood seeks the grand strategy of Islamicizing the Middle East and eventually the world as spelled out in their covenant. Ideologically they had no choice but to go to war. As for material well being there was no real improvement in Gaza and after a year in power Hamas has nothing to show for its “revolution”. Steadfastly ideological, Hamas refused all compromises brokered by Egypt and preferred constant conflict with Israel. The Hamas diocentric leadership is steeped firmly in the belief of their own invincibility as Allah is their patron in the war against the infidels and heretics. Such logic dictates their missile offensive against Israel. To further their strategy for ultimate victory Hamas moved from being a tactical nuisance to the Jewish State to upgrading itself into a strategic threat by increasing its rocket capacity whereby the port of Ashdod serving Tel Aviv and the center of the country and the capital of the Negev, Beersheva were now victims of missile attacks. Peace is “defeat” and was never an option for Hamas.

    Similar to the Second War in Lebanon (2006) the West and the moderate secular Arab regimes are desperate for an Israeli victory cutting Hamas down to size. The Islamists must be perceived as losing or at least halted in their jihad against secularization in the Arab world. Public opinion shifts with the victor making any Hamas success a serious impediment to stability and a strategic threat to the Moslem/Arab world’s secular states. For Hamas the Islamization of all Arab states is just one of the first steps on the way to world domination in the name of Allah.

    Overall Hosni Mubarak’s regime leads the charge against the Moslem Brotherhood of which Hamas is one faction. Furthermore, Iran although Khomeniest Shi’ite is their staunchest ally and thereby poses a challenge to Egyptian influence in the Arab world. The issue is global and critical for secular nations in the Middle East. All this begs the question as to why Egypt allowed massive weapons and arms smuggling into Gaza. This certainly could help keep the conflict off the streets of Cairo while “marginalizing” and “compartmentalizing” it in Gaza. But allowing five hundred Rafiah tunnels to function is not “turning a blind eye” nor is it just “inefficiency” in dealing with the problem. Rather it is a pro-active policy of arming Hamas to the teeth. And Israel agreed? Knowing the Hamas Jihadist policies Mubarak helped them overstep their bounds and fall into his ambush, one where Israel would be forced into a military conflict to curb Hamas aggression. Weakening Hamas damages the Moslem Brotherhood in Egypt and throughout the Arab world. Overall, Israel quite possibly got maneuvered into doing the secular Arab world’s dirty work in taking on the Islamists. The Jewish State may just be a proxy (with very few options) in the game of curbing Islamic and Iranian power in the Arab world. But in the end that might just be the grand plan for acceptance if not legitimacy in some form. Call it a confluence of interests.

    Egyptian power is enhanced when being called back to mediate between Hamas and Israel to arrange a cease-fire. On the other hand the Egyptians must be very careful not to overplay their hand and find an Islamic uprising in their back yard despite the setback suffered by Hamas at Israel’s hands.

    Paradoxical as it sounds, the secularists in the Arab world need an overwhelming Israeli victory and then they will negotiate the conditions for continued Hamas control of Gaza – albeit on their terms which are very similar to those of Israel and the West. Such conditions are meant to weaken the Hamas to the point where sometime in the future they will be forced from power by the Palestinian people and a rejuvenated form of the secular Fatah movement will once again hold sway.

  8. Edi神 Says:

    Those muslim has no intention whatsoever to fight for palestinian. THey are just rushing to get the 72virgins…

    I would have die for a 72virgins… If I am a wusslim. LOL!

  9. farkestinian Says:

    There is no sin except stupidity. — Oscar Wilde

  10. unkl Says:

    A stupid malaysian hypocrite:

    Anil Netto’s blog screams “Massacre! Israeli forces shell UN school in refugee camp.” Well Anil is a known Israeli and US critic. He does editorials in the Catholic Herald, not long ago he used the Herald to push his views. I guess someone must have brought it to his attention. He has slowed down in that department. There is a lot of one sided views in his postings about Israel. He hypes it up by sympathising with Palestinian terrorists. He never talks about atrocities like the rocket attacks by Hamas, Mumbai massacres, Sri Lanka, his idols are the left wing nut jobs like Chomsky and Robert Fisk.

    His post about the massacres is bunkum.

    http://7rangers.blogspot.com/2009/01/it-was-no-massacre.html

  11. wits0 Says:

    Surely it’s a grave sin for a said “staunch” Catholic like Anil to pursue his private agenda through stupifying the readers of his blog by being so wantonly skewered in his postulation. In this, how is he different from being any Godless, immoral and idiotarian atheist? We would have expected just a more centric approach like that from the Pope’s statement on the issue himself if Anil needed to be PC.

    If we merely called him stupid, that seems to excuse a lot of his sinfulness.

  12. wits0 Says:

    Maybe Anil thinks his position exemplifies humanitarian ideals but it’s getting clearer and clearer that it does not impress. Certainly it does not send any thrill going up many legs like the way that MSNBC’s Chris Matthews saying on Feb. 12 that when Obama spoke, “I felt this thrill going up my leg.”

  13. hutchrun Says:

    Imam A Nil Nutto should tell the pope to get lost first instead of hanging around the vatican:

    “…Roman Catholic Church after a pro-Palestinian march ended in Muslims burning Israeli flags and praying in front of Milan Cathedral.”

    But the Italians are not amused (nutto notwithstanding):

    The sight of ranks of men and boys kneeling in prayer in the piazza directly in front of the Gothic building incensed many Italians, with photographs carried on the front pages of many newspapers.[…]

    Mario Borghezio, who is also an MEP, said: “The prayer to Allah recited by thousands of fanatical Muslims is an act of intimidation, a slap in the face for the city of Milan, which must remain Christian.” Muslim leaders now want to meet with Milan’s archbishop, Cardinal Dionigi Tettamanzi, to “clarify” what happened at the weekend, when the demonstrators diverted from their previously agreed route and staged the impromptu prayer to Mecca.

    While trying not to stoke the controversy, the Catholic Church was deeply uneasy with the mass prayer outside the Duomo, which is the world’s largest Gothic cathedral and the third-largest Roman Catholic church in the world, after St Peter’s in Rome and Seville cathedral.

  14. hutchrun Says:

    “Surely it’s a grave sin for a said “staunch” Catholic like Anil to pursue his private agenda through stupifying the readers of his blog by being so wantonly skewered in his postulation.” – wits0

    One word describes him best – WHORE

  15. hutchrun Says:

    Another good xample is Hamas operative and lecher widely known as “Mullah KTemoc”.
    A suspected airport baggage handler or cleaner, and virulently anti israel, he has gone public with his expertise on Gandhi`s pubic hair.
    His expertise has led to suspicions that he runs red light centres (brothels, massage parlors etc) to finance terror.

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