My Views on Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell


With Obama’s pick for Supreme Court Nominee Elena Kagan (see here for her own hypocrisy on herself), here’s my take on Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell:

1. The military is all about WAR. It is not the place to seek dates, homosexual or otherwise, which is why in forward bases you do not have ‘conjugal visits’. If you want to show how proud you are of your sexuality/race/anything except nationality and profession, return to the civilian life.

2. Troop camaderie and unit cohesion are top priority. As The Jawa Report mentioned before, guys are guys – soldiers would rather not have on their minds the suspicion that one of their buddies is checking them out in the shower or foxhole. If you disagree, then you should also be pushing for mixed-gender barracks and showers. See how well that idea runs (and the submarine corp already beat you to it anyway).

See also more thoughts here.


16 Responses to “My Views on Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”

  1. Robert Says:

    Did you serve in any of the United States Armed Forces, Scott? If you did you would know that any sexual “grab-a$$” on the job is not tolerated. You take it off base and off duty. And you do know that homosexuality is not a choice but an inherited condition.

    And if you haven’t served in the US Armed Forces, then I must assume that a gung-ho NeoClown-er-Con like yourself served in the Malaysian Armed Forces, correct? What’s their stance on sex in the workplace?

  2. jumbo Says:

    ““grab-a$$” on the job is not tolerated”

    Ha, now we know how he lost his arm.

  3. Nasaei Ahmad Says:

    ‘Swerve off’ the topic a bit. Last time I had asked why Robert and Ron believe God doesn’t exist. We want to understand these people’s (atheists’) mind set and their believe.

    Please list down by number, so that we can understand it clearly, exactly why.

    Consider yourselves ‘godless’ persons too if you actually are ‘in between’ believe and not believe in God.

  4. Ron Says:

    Seems Scott’s never heard of Napoleon, Alexander the Great, or Epaminondas, the Theban general who commanded a “special forces unit” composed of gay men.

  5. Scott Thong Says:

    Seems Ron does not appreciate the fact that in the ancient world (and the modern United Nations peacekeeping forces), sexual energy was released through mass rape of the populace rather than being restrained.

    I believe that in any workplace, sex on the job is a no-no. Unless you’re a Democrat, then it’s just a no. Or a Republican, then it’s a MAJOR SCANDAL!!!!

    If homosexuality is an inherited condition, how’s about other forms of sexual preference? Isn’t it akin to racist discrimination, then, to be prejudiced against those poor people who inherited genes for bestiality, pedophilia and necrophilia?

    (But how do those genes get passed down anyway, if their preferred sexual pairings all result in no offspring?)

  6. Simon Thong Says:

    Were Epaminondas’ so-called “special forces unit” composed of ONLY gay men? Or were they merely predators of young boys?

  7. Simon Thong Says:

    What about napoleon, hater of women and yet married? Or alexander the great who had two wives? Were they gay and that was why they were such great soldiers? Is that your point?

  8. Scott Thong Says:

    Here’s a different way to make things ‘equal’ and still have the focus on pure killing. Extend DODT to every orientation.

    But here’s something on that:

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/301486.php#301486

  9. Ron Says:

    The Napoleonic Code which decriminalized sodomy was drafted by Cambacérès (an openly gay man) whom Napoleon had appointed to Second Consul. Though the law had been quietly dropped prior to the revolution, Napoleon allowed it to stand and gave it his stamp of approval. This was in stark contrast to the rampant homophobia going on during that time in other European countries, most notably England.

    Alexander the Great was probably bi-sexual. There is speculation that he and his longtime companion Hephaestion were lovers. And his marriages to non-Greek woman were purely a matter of political convenience. In any event, he made no proclamations against homosexualtiy amongst his troops.

    Epaminondas cavalry was composed of paired lovers.

    “Plutarch records that the Sacred Band was made up of male couples, the rationale being that lovers could fight more fiercely and cohesively than strangers with no ardent bonds.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Band_of_Thebes

  10. Ron Says:

    “If homosexuality is an inherited condition, how’s about other forms of sexual preference? Isn’t it akin to racist discrimination, then, to be prejudiced against those poor people who inherited genes for bestiality, pedophilia and necrophilia?”

    Voluntary coupling between adults males constitutes informed consent. Children, animals, and corpses are incapable of granting such consent.

  11. dumbos-i-meet Says:

    “And you do know that homosexuality is not a choice but an inherited condition.”

    Bollocks. It is all that hollywood porn movies and liberal attention where farking dogs is also ok. The idiot will say that is also an inherited condition. Crazy sob. Must have got it from a dog farking father.

  12. hutchrun Says:

    It`s a great idea, one that Obama Barack should emulate.

    Send in the gay units after the Taliban in Afghanistan. Then we get to see the prostators meet the prostates.

  13. Scott Thong Says:

    But if forbidden-philiacs cannot choose their condition, what are they supposed to do – repress their natural sexuality, or ‘change’ it to a more acceptable form?

  14. hutchrun Says:

    Gay Dutch soldiers responsible for Srebrenica massacre says US general
    http://fadingad.wordpress.com/2010/03/20/gay-dutch-soldiers-responsible-for-srebrenica-massacre-says-us-general/

    Afghanistan/Pakistan is where the idea shoud be tested out. The Taliban would certainly try to wean the weenies “to a more acceptable form”.

  15. Ron Says:

    US general apologises for Dutch gay soldier remark:

    But in a letter on Monday to that commander, retired general Henk van den Bremmen, Sheehan acknowledged that Van den Bremmen had said no such thing at the time.

    “I am sorry that my recent public recollection of those discussions of 15 years ago inaccurately reflected your thinking on some specific social issues in the military,” Sheehan said in the letter. “To be clear, the failure on the ground in Srebrenica was in no way the fault of the individual soldiers.”

    http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LDE62N0XX.htm

  16. hutchrun Says:

    There was swift and at times angry Dutch reaction after retired NATO commander and U.S. General of the Marines John Sheehan told the Senate Armed Services Committee on Thursday that former Dutch Chief of Defense General van den Breemen told him that homosexuals were partially to blame for the Netherlands’ impotent reaction during that infamous 1995 massacre. The Dutch government and people’s response to the bigoted American General’s attempt to rewrite history was immediate.

    Read more: http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/netherlands-military-outraged-over-us-general/#ixzz0nxL5U1EC

    So he was lying to the Committee.

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