Marina Mahathir: Send Good Muslim Role Models, Ignore Islamophobes


Marina Mahathir thinks the send-lecturers idea is a bad one (so do I, but for different reasons) and gives a sensible suggestion for an alternative strategy. And she has a one-sided view of Conservative personalities like Rush and Beck (not cited below), but I can’t blame her lack of exposure – the liberal media’s tentacles are far reaching.

Excerpted from The Star 13 Oct 2010:

An idea least likely to work
MUSINGS By MARINA MAHATHIR

The truth is our people here have no idea what Islamophobia is and how it manifests itself. Islamophobes – just like Christianophobes, Hindu­phobes and Buddhistphobes – are not amenable to reason and facts but would rather delve into scurrilous beliefs.

I met someone once who asked me why Muslims liked to cut off people’s heads. That’s the sort of stuff Islamophobes like to say. No point in quoting the Quran there.

In fact, I’m not sure there is any point in trying to counter such prejudice and hate. But if we really want to, we need to unpack some of those beliefs about us and show them how untrue they are.

For instance, one of the many points held against Muslims is that we oppress our women. So the way to counter that is not to send male lecturers who will undoubtedly get defensive about this issue but to send bright young and articulate women who are doing things people don’t normally associate with Islam.

Send female fighter pilots, artists, mountain climbers, activists and the like and get them spots with the most popular talkshow hosts. There is no need to talk about religion at all; just talk about the amazing things they do. The point will be made.

Another charge often made against Muslim countries is that we are undemocratic. Here I don’t think we should even dream of trying to defend every single Muslim country in the world, least of all those which don’t have elections, jail dissidents and ban the Internet.

The truth is: Who are we to speak for the entire Muslim world? We may say we are peaceful people but then some people from another Muslim country might blow up a few of their country folk, and our credibility along with them.

We may say we have regular elections and then someone would point at those countries ruled by ridiculously wealthy royal families. We may show off our educated women and someone would bring up the torched girls’ schools in Afgha­nistan.

So let’s forget this silly idea and instead deal with our own extremist problems at home. God knows we have enough of them and are doing precious little to counter their many phobias. Lecturers wouldn’t be any good here either.

Hmm, she seems to contradict herself a bit on the second paragraph I cite above – apparently the person who thought Muslims like to cut off people’s heads is an Islamophobe who is not amenable to reason and facts, but then in the third-to-last paragraph cited above, she gives an example of why some people might think Islam is compatible with violence.

And of course, this:

(PARTIALLY CENSORED GRAPHIC CONTENT WARNING)

Atheist:

Buddhist:

Christian:

Hindu:

Jew:

Muslim:

Click images for links.

So if the above happens all around the world, on a daily basis in fact, is the person Marina Mahathir mentioned really unreasonable to assume that such a thing is the norm? Quoting the Quran on what Muslims are supposed to like or dislike would be pointless, because quoting the daily news would show what self-proclaimed Muslims like to do in actual fact.

Remember: who really gives a bad name to Islam – Islamophobes, or self-proclaimed Muslims?

Marina Mahathir hints at it with her closing paragraphs, but still believes critics of Islam are necessarily irrational. Odd irony.


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21 Responses to “Marina Mahathir: Send Good Muslim Role Models, Ignore Islamophobes”

  1. bales Says:

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    And you learned to do the pogo dance
    Cause you heard that it’s all the rage in France
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    ’cause you saw Johnny Rotten wear ’em on the box
    And you learned to do the pogo dance
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    I never told you what I think of you

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  2. Nasaei Ahmad Says:

    Very disturbing images of atrocities…by human beings, (not animal acts). I don’t know how to describe such acts, I’m speechless. If I’m not mistaken, that one of the decapitated head was committed in Indonesia – quite a lawless and done by the backward, uncivilized people/ country (sorry to say)..

    To be fair, it is better if we post here also the photos from Ireland, Nigeria,
    China, or even USA victims of shooting down innocent peoples.

  3. jake Says:

    Tell that to the TITAS (Tamadun Islam dan Tamadeun Asia) lecturer who, in Universiti Sains Malaysia’s Dewan Tunku Syed Putra (USM DTSP) packed with around 1000 captive university students from various schools attending the compulsory subject, declared that all religions apart from Islam were misguided and wrong, naming Christianity and Buddhism specifically.

    And the kicker I will always remember him saying immediately after his non-muhibbah insults:

    “Kamu jangan marah. Ini bukan opinion, ini FAKTA.”
    https://scottthong.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/usm-titas-lecturer-who-slurred-other-religions-in-2002/

  4. jake Says:

    # beroknagara Says:
    September 10, 09 at 7:12 am

    Naj*s is doing taqiya.
    In 2004, Naj*s Tong Rosak said “No one should question the right of muslims to slander non muslims”.

  5. chitlins Says:

    Our Chinese neighbours they gave us kuih bulan (mooncake) and we gave them tapioca and yam for them to feed their pigs.

    We had no qualm about partaking the soothing lemonade in their houses during the many festivals that they had. We were not bothered by the suckling pigs they ate – not even the poor creatures’ heads that they displayed on the dinner tables.

    We called each other names. The Melayu were the belacan eaters, the Chinese the pork-eaters and the Indians the toddy-drinkers. Today you try that you may end up in a hospital or a police station.

    Ah, those were the days my friend when we were truly colour blind and truly Malayans and Malaysians. I was lucky.
    http://kadirjasin.blogspot.com/2010/10/of-1malaysia-pendatang-suckling-pigs.html

  6. Simon Thong Says:

    Yea, questions were never asked back then; when I offered some chocolate to some students recently, all took them except the only muslim in the class. “Is this halal?” she asked.

  7. Nasaei Ahmad Says:

    Tell that to the TITAS (Tamadun Islam dan Tamadeun Asia) lecturer who, in Universiti Sains Malaysia’s Dewan Tunku Syed Putra (USM DTSP) packed with around 1000 captive university students from various schools attending the compulsory subject, declared that all religions apart from Islam were misguided and wrong, naming Christianity and Buddhism specifically.- Jake.

    I think a lecturer wasn’t professional to say such a thing. He/she should say/teach only and must not say any irrelevant/out of context things, or any prejudice, malicious, libels words etc.

    As I notice, lecturers in the developed countries, or in the West are are very ‘professional’. Malaysian teachers/ lecturers should ’emulate’ and learn from them maybe.

    BTW, “Is this halal?” she asked.- Simon.

    I think Muslims like people of any faith have the right to practice hios religion (meaning that Christians/Hindus, Buddhists etc. etc. have the also to practice theirs).

    I know, the better way of ‘doing think’, I mean I will hurt the feeling of others if you ask that kind of question. But I still maintain, he has the right/ reserve to know (because we Muslims cannot eat ‘unhalal’ things, whereas for non Muslims, they can).

    If I were him, I will take whatever is given, but later check it before consuming). Maybe this is better. There was a narration about a Jew who gave the Prophet (pbuh) a very sour orange. The Prophet took it and ate without question, but ‘thank you’.

  8. Simon Thong Says:

    No, politeness would be to say, if you’re not sure, “Thanks, but not this time.” That would not hurt the feelings of the other person. Why should muslims think that we are unfeeling and ignorant, and that we don’t know that we should not offer anything that is not halal?

  9. wits0 Says:

    MM is basically bias like her Machiavellian dad ; don’t be conned that she is anything more open minded or clear sighted. Yet she likes to assume a moral highground which she hasn’t earned and blathers those worn signature inanities of denials ala Taqiyyah.

    She is insulting others by calling them irrational(islamophobes) and she made(or tried to make) the water more murky by drawing an impossible parallel of moral equivalence by creating the new series of new phobes.

    So crummy and inane an attempt that has actually been used before by others like her.

    She isn’t really such a skilled writer with her unnecessary convolutions and selected perspective based on denials and obfuscation.

  10. Serious Shepherd Says:

    I still could not find the pictures of Ilaga militants cutting ears of Muslims in the Philippines and ate those ears.

    But the pictures of Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib are still downloadable and accessible.

    So whatever happened to Ahsan Jafri or what really happened at the Kattankudy mosque in 1990?

    What? Prof. Baruch Goldstein was born in Brooklyn? And there was a shrine built of this suicide attacker?

    Conclusion: the best question to ask is “Remember: who really gives a bad name to ____? ____ophobes, or self-proclaimed _____?” because the blanks can be filled with any religion (maybe with exception of Taoism and Jainism).

  11. Scott Thong Says:

    Speaking of Guantanamo…

    Much more on Luxury Holiday Club Gitmo here. Be warned – there are terrible tortures such as Game Boys, personal laptop computers, and ONLY ONE ICE-CREAM EACH!!! The inhumane horror!

  12. loop Says:

    “Is this halal?”

    There was a follower of Hare Rama Hare Krishna when attending a course brought his own pot and plate because of his halo.

  13. Serious Shepherd Says:

    Guess u missed that NatGeo documentary on Guantanamo. Those detainees are good in playing table tennis.

    Just like how DPRK is big and not just the modern housing visible from the DMZ, Guantanamo has many camps and even Camp Delta has Camp 1-7 and in Camp Four, it is said that it’s like living in proper POW camps, with access to books and games.

    But that wasn’t the camp where Captain James Yee had administered.

  14. syabas Says:

  15. syabas Says:

    Love

  16. syabas Says:

    ….

  17. syabas Says:

    “There was a follower of Hare Rama Hare Krishna when attending a course brought his own pot and plate because of his halo.”…loop of Hell

    Ya we know he should have used your plate and pot because of your halo.

  18. syabas Says:

    “As I notice, lecturers in the developed countries, or in the West are are very ‘professional’. Malaysian teachers/ lecturers should ‘emulate’ and learn from them maybe.”

    Malaysia I hear has very good ganja

  19. Simon Thong Says:

    Malaysia has a good climate for ganja; but I haven’t heard anything about its cultivation for a long, long time. In the 1970s, the school I taught in was next to a squatter settlement (a slum), and separated from it on one side by a fence. Just next door was a ganja plot though you couldn’t see it for the bushes that blocked it off. Students bought it cheap across the fence. One night there was a huge fire; villagers said you could smell the a”sweet” aroma all night and the next day.🙂 That was the end of Ipoh as the centre of ganja growing.

  20. sadix Says:

    Hamas and UNRWA agree: schoolchildren should be human shields
    http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=192368

  21. printemps Says:

    “Multikulti”, the concept that “we are now living side by side and are happy about it,” does not work, Merkel told a meeting of younger members of her conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party at Potsdam near Berlin.

    “This approach has failed, totally,” she said, adding that immigrants should integrate and adopt Germany’s culture and values.

    “We feel tied to Christian values. Those who don’t accept them don’t have a place here,” said the chancellor.

    “Subsidising immigrants” isn’t sufficient, Germany has the right to “make demands” on them, she added, such as mastering the language of Goethe and abandoning practices such as forced marriages.

    Merkel spoke a week after talks with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan in which they pledged to do more to improve the often poor integration record of Germany’s 2.5-million-strong Turkish community.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101017/wl_afp/germanymuslimreligionimmigration

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