3-Dimensional Space as a Metaphor for the Christian Trinity


What is length? It space. What is width? It is space. What is depth? It is space.

So what is space? Space is not just length, nor just width, nor just depth. Space is all three together, each dimension distinct but inseparable.

Now let’s go to the Triune God. What is the Father? He is God. What is the Son (Jesus)? He is God. What is the Holy Spirit? He is God.

So who is God? God is not just the Father, nor just the Son, not just the Holy Spirit. God is all three together, each person distinct but inseparable.

Just as for physical space where 1 metre x 1 metre x 1 metre = 1 cubic metre (not 1 + 1 + 1 = 3), the three persons of the Trinity mutiply and enhance one another – not merely add on to one another.

So if we can accept such a concept as three-dimensional space without thinking it odd or incomprehensible, why not the concept of a three-as-one God?

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See also:

The Trinity: Examples in Real Life – More metaphors for the Trinity in the sciences, including the resonance concept from chemistry

The Christian Trinity in the Old Testament – God is I, Us and He – Long before the New Testament, God Himself testifies to His triune nature

Why Christians Believe Jesus is God in Three Easy Bible Passages – Jesus told us to worship God, yet allowed people to worship Jesus


38 Responses to “3-Dimensional Space as a Metaphor for the Christian Trinity”

  1. me Says:

    Can u show in which verse this trinity theory described in the Bible?

  2. me Says:

    what is the original language for Bible? why don’t the Christians use the original language rather than English? easy to check whether the bible has been wrongly translated by the people who using the religion as a stepping stone to be greed? hmmm..

  3. Scott Thong Says:

    Can u show in which verse this trinity theory described in the Bible?

    “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. – God speaks about Himself in the first and third person forms, in Zechariah 12:10

    “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” – Jesus in Matthew 28:19

    “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with all of you”+ – Paul in 2nd Corinthians 13:14

    Note also God refers to Himself as a plural in Genesis 1:26 – Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness. No angels are involved in the making, however Jesus Christ was involved in the making (John 1:1-3).

  4. me Says:

    answer this:

    What about the Bible? Who actually wrote it?
    What was the original language of the Bible? (Hebrew? Aramaic? Koine Greek?)
    NOTE: – The Bible was never in English during the time of any prophet (not even Muhammad) – because English did not exist until after 1066 AD!

    Does the Bible exist in the original form anywhere on earth?

    Why does the Catholic Bible has seven (7) more books than the Protestant Bible?

    Why do these two Bibles have different versions of the same books?

    Why are there so many mistakes and errors are from the very first verse right up to the very last verse?

    Why do ‘Born Again Christians’ teach concepts that are not from the Bible?

    There is no word “Trinity” in the Bible in any version of any language

    The oldest forms of Christianity do not support the ‘born again’ beliefs

    Jesus of the English Bible complains about the ‘crucifixion’
    (“Eli! Eli! Lama sabachthani? – My God! My God! Why have You forsaken me?”) [Mk 15:34]

    How can Jesus be the “Only Begotten Son” of John 3:16? When in Psalms 2:7 David is God’s “Begotten Son?”

    Would a ‘Just’ God, a ‘Fair’ God, a ‘Loving’ God — punish Jesus for the sins of the people that he called to follow him?

    What happens to people who died before Jesus came?

    What happens to those who never hear this message?

    What about innocent children who die although their parents are not Christian?

    Didn’t God create Adam from dirt? — So, why does he need Mary to make Jesus?

    And what about God?

    How can God create Himself?
    How can God be a man?
    How can a man be a God?
    How can God have a son?
    The Bible says “Seth (is) the son of Adam” and that”Adam is the son of God.” [Lk 3:36]

    Can’t God just forgive us and not have to kill Jesus?

    And what about Jesus?

    Jesus did not even carry the cross — Simon Cyre’ne, a passerby did! [Mk 15:21]
    Jesus of the Bible was NOT on the cross for longer than six (6) hours — NOT three days — (from the 3rd to the 9th hour) [Mk 15:25 & 15:33]
    Jesus of the Bible did not spend three days and nights in the tomb — Friday night – until Sunday before dawn — is not 3 days and nights!
    Jesus DID NOT claim to be God – or even equal to God!

  5. Scott Thong Says:

    what is the original language for Bible? why don’t the Christians use the original language rather than English?

    Because most Christians only understand their native language – English for Americans, Spanish and French and Arabic and Chinese for others. The alternative would be to do it Islam-style, where only the original Arabic is considered authoritative – but most Muslims don’t actually understand Arabic.

    Any Christian can make the effort to learn the original languages for themselves – in fact, many pastors do so in order to have deeper understanding of the Bible.

    easy to check whether the bible has been wrongly translated by the people who using the religion as a stepping stone to be greed? hmmm..

    Actually, easier than you might think:

    http://www.apostolic-churches.net/bible/strongs.html

    The Bible in English, with each word hyperlinked to the original language + definition.

    —-

    I hope I have been helpful to you in your quest for the truth.

  6. Zack T Says:

    Actually… based on me’s last comment… doesn’t sound like much of a quest for truth. more like a quest to bring down a Christian’s faith.

    I’ll let someone else handle me on this one…

  7. me Says:

    Zack T, can you answer all the questions?

    and how can Jesus be a god if he pray to god?

  8. Zack T Says:

    me,

    I could… rather easily… but as I said.. I’m letting someone else handle you this time.

    And umm…. you’re posting in a blog post that is talking about the Trinity… which pretty much answers that question of yours.

    Hopefully someone will come along and brave your challenge; cause I’ve done (and still am doing) so with some other commentors in other blog posts.

  9. me Says:

    cannot be la.. 3 god, 1 universe.. they will fight each other..

  10. passerby Says:

    @Zact T
    Haha

  11. Scott Thong Says:

    answer this:

    What about the Bible? Who actually wrote it? – me

    Among others, various parts were codified by: Moses, Joshua, David, Solomon, Mark the follower of Peter, Matthew, Luke, John, Paul, James.

    What was the original language of the Bible? (Hebrew? Aramaic? Koine Greek?)
    NOTE: – The Bible was never in English during the time of any prophet (not even Muhammad) – because English did not exist until after 1066 AD!

    Yes, the original languages are three – Hebrew for the most part of the Old Testament, Aramaic for the section correlating to the exile to Babylon, and Koine Greek for the New Testament.

    Does the Bible exist in the original form anywhere on earth?

    Define original. Unlike Mormonism’s Book of Mormon and Islam’s Quran, Christianity does not claim that an ‘original’ copy of the Bible ever existed. Rather, the Old Testament was originally passed down in oral recitation, and only written down around the time of the exile. The New Testament was compiled from the Gospel accounts and letters to the churches. So no ‘original form’ Bible exists by definition.

    However, the various books of the Bible exist as manuscripts dating back to 300 B.C. (e.g. Isaiah in the Dead Sea Scrolls).

    And finally – no, we do not consider Mohammad to be a prophet.

    Why does the Catholic Bible has seven (7) more books than the Protestant Bible?

    Roman Catholicism accepts various books as canonical while Protestants do not. The reasons for not accepting these books are wide ranging, but bear weight.

    Why do these two Bibles have different versions of the same books?

    I am not aware of any major or even minor differences between the jointly-accepted books of the Bible. Please cite some if you know of them.

    Why are there so many mistakes and errors are from the very first verse right up to the very last verse?

    Without any citations of such alleged mistakes and errors, this is quite an unfounded allegation.

    However, any errors and differences in modern versions can easily be put down to human mistakes – whether through copy errors or printing errors – and different decisions in translation.

    Why do ‘Born Again Christians’ teach concepts that are not from the Bible?

    Again, citations are needed in order to take this allegation seriously. Perhaps you actually mean Pentecostals or Evangelicals who speak in tongues – the term ‘Born Again Christian’ actually applies to any true believer in Christ who has given up his old life.

    There is no word “Trinity” in the Bible in any version of any language

    Correct. However, the concept is clearly there. The word ‘Trinity’ is merely a modern convenience to quickly refer to an accepted doctrine.

    This is similar to the way ‘communion’, ‘rapture’, ‘Second Coming’, ‘creatio ex nihilo’ (God creating everything from nothing), and ‘substitutionary sacrifice’ do not appear in the Bible. Yet these concepts are accepted as standard Christian doctrine.

    Why the unfair attention paid to the Trinity?

    The oldest forms of Christianity do not support the ‘born again’ beliefs

    Again, you need to state what you think ‘born again’ beliefs are.

    Jesus of the English Bible complains about the ‘crucifixion’
    (“Eli! Eli! Lama sabachthani? – My God! My God! Why have You forsaken me?”) [Mk 15:34]

    You would too if you were nailed through the arms and feet and left hanging under the sun, after having yoru back ripped open by lashes.

    But Jesus already knew what He was in for: “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done” – Luke 22:42

    How can Jesus be the “Only Begotten Son” of John 3:16? When in Psalms 2:7 David is God’s “Begotten Son?”

    This is a prophetic Psalm – note that verse 2 makes clear that the Psalm is about God’s ‘Anointed One’ – which is English for the Greek word ‘Christ’ and Hebrew word ‘Messiah’.

    Hence, the Psalm is actually stating that Christ is God’s son. Natch!

    It is not uncommon, after all, for a modern singer to place himself in the first person of a song about someone else’s experiences – for example, a personal favorite ‘Wonderful’ by Everclear sings about being a school-aged child of divorcing parents.

    Would a ‘Just’ God, a ‘Fair’ God, a ‘Loving’ God — punish Jesus for the sins of the people that he called to follow him?

    Isn’t God just to demand payment for sins, and loving to give His own most dear son in our stead? (The Bible says nothing, however, about God having to be ‘fair’.)

    What happens to people who died before Jesus came?

    What happens to those who never hear this message?

    Paul gives his view in Romans 1.

    The Bible states that God is infinitely and perfectly just – hence, at the Day of Judgment before His throne, no one will be able to say that God is acting wrongly – because everyone will accept that God really is just in His decisions regarding salvation and condemnation.

    What about innocent children who die although their parents are not Christian?

    Beliefs on this issue differ, however many Christians believe that until the age of accountability where a child truly understands right and wrong – and can therefore purposely choose wrong – they are safe from condemnation.

    Didn’t God create Adam from dirt? — So, why does he need Mary to make Jesus?

    It is not stated that God needed a human mother to make Jesus, save that He already prophecied beforehand how He would go about bringing the Messiah into the world.

    In any case, having a human birth mother and legal father fulfilled several criteria of the Messiah – being descended from King David’s lineage for example.

    And what about God?

    How can God create Himself?

    This is a misconception – God did not create Himself, as God was never created. He always has been – He was, and is, and is to come.

    For comparison, if God does not exist, where did the universe come from? Out of nothing, or did it always exist? Both choices strain the brain.

    How can God be a man?

    He cannot. He can, however, choose to manifest in any form – such as an angel, or a burning bush, or a blinding light, or a man.

    How can a man be a God?

    He man cannot. See above for clarification.

    How can God have a son?

    It would be easier to understand if you understood ‘son’ in the titular/adoptive sense, rather than the genetic sense. For clarification, see the difference between walad and ibn in Arabic terminology.

    The Bible says “Seth (is) the son of Adam” and that”Adam is the son of God.” [Lk 3:36]

    Actually, it’s Luke 3:38.

    We are all children of the Father, Adam included. (Why do you think He is called the Father?)

    However, Jesus occupies a special position as THE Son of God. It’s the difference between a common noun (wolverine, an animal) and a proper noun (Wolverine, the mutant superhero from X-Men).

    Can’t God just forgive us and not have to kill Jesus?

    Only God can really answer that question.

    And what about Jesus?

    Jesus did not even carry the cross — Simon Cyre’ne, a passerby did! [Mk 15:21]

    I do believe Simon of Cyrene did not get nailed to the cross and hung up to die. What’s your point?

    Jesus of the Bible was NOT on the cross for longer than six (6) hours — NOT three days — (from the 3rd to the 9th hour) [Mk 15:25 & 15:33]

    Historical accounts show that being on the cross for even a few hours can result in death. What more Jesus, who was flogged bloodied before His ordeal?

    Jesus of the Bible did not spend three days and nights in the tomb — Friday night – until Sunday before dawn — is not 3 days and nights!

    Actually, Jesus died before the Sabbath (Saturday) began, just as the Pharisees hoped – they didn’t want the Sabbath to arrive and then no one would ‘work’ by removing the bodies from the crosses. The Jewish reckoning counts days as starting at sunset – hence, Jesus died before Friday sunset as the first day. Friday sunset marked the second day’s arrival, and Saturday’s sunset marked the third day’s arrival. So Jesus was dead across the boundary markers of three days, even if this wasn’t 72 solid hours which is the way we tend to count things nowadays.

    Jesus DID NOT claim to be God – or even equal to God!

    Please see Why Christians Believe Jesus is God in Three Easy Bible Passages for the logical steps, followed by Why the Holy Spirit is Considered God (and So is Jesus) which has even more citations.

    Note too various places where Jesus claims to be equal to God (e.g. John 14:9), and how many times the Jews wanted to stone Jesus for the blasphemy of equating Himself to God (e.g. John 10:33).

    ——————

    I have taken the time to personally respond to what seems to be a copy-pasted comment, therefore I do hope you will take the time to read and understand what I have written – not merely skim through it and ignore it.

    Thank you.

  12. Simon Thong Says:

    Yea, me is not after any answers. He is after trouble. And very poor understanding, shows the mentality of one of those types that are literal and also refuse to understand. You say: One God and Three Persons; but he says 3 god (sic). Probably right when Zack T says he is of the same persuasion as loop.

  13. Scott Thong Says:

    and how can Jesus be a god if he pray to god? – me

    He can, if God exists as three entities as one – in fact, the absurdity of Jesus ‘praying to Himself’ is one reason Unitarian beliefs of the Jesus = The Father sort are irreconcilibale, and only the Trinitarian concept can reconcile that occurrence with occurrences of Jesus declaring His divinity.

  14. me Says:

    Thanks for your time Simon.. but still i am not satisfied.. why there is no original manuscript for the bible.. let say the original language is in hebrew, why don’t maintain the hebrew and give a translation in english, japanese, spanish or whatever language in this world?

  15. rotflmao Says:

    me Says:
    October 26, 10 at 6:00 pm
    cannot be la.. 3 god, 1 universe.. they will fight each other..
    ******

    You are joker fellr.
    http://www.hinduwebsite.com/trinity.asp

  16. Scott Thong Says:

    why there is no original manuscript for the bible..

    Define original. Do you mean as in, one whole ancient book with all the contents of a modern Bible in a convenient package?

    For the Old Testament, there’s the Masoretic texts (between 300 to 900 AD), the Septuagint (between 200 to zero BC), and the Dead Sea Scrolls (up to 700 BC). The Codex Amiatinus (700 AD) has the entire Bible, both Old and New Testaments.

    For the New Testament, there’s the Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus (both around 300 AD).

    Comparison to modern Bibles and loose sheets of ancient manuscripts finds the compilations with similar contents.

    As for why, say the original letters written by Paul’s own hand are not around – the original copy of Ephesians was sent to the church at Ephesus, where after it was read out to the congregation, it was copied and re-sent to other churches, who then did the same thing in an ancient version of FW: FW: FW: emails. It would be pretty hard to know which copy was Paul’s original handwritten one!

    In fact, it is only because so many copies were made that we have such a complete compilation of the Bible today. Compare the 24,000 manuscripts of various New Testament documents against the mere 643 copies of the Illiad (on which the film Troy is based), or the mere 7 of Homer’s works!

    let say the original language is in hebrew, why don’t maintain the hebrew and give a translation in english, japanese, spanish or whatever language in this world?

    Such Bibles do exist:

    http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Hebrew_Index.htm

    http://interlinearbible.org/

    Click on Genesis 1 and see what it looks like. Printed versions with line-on-line (as the site does it) or page-vs-page are available in good Christian bookstores.

    As can be expected, such Bibles would be about twice as big as single-language ones, and not of interest to the casual reader.

  17. Zack T Says:

    me,

    It was Scott who answered your questions.. not Simon.

    And good job, Scott. I would have taken ages to answer even just some of them.. hahaha

  18. Jesus H. Christ Says:

    Look folks, this whole “Trinity” business is totally whack.

    I never once claimed that me and Dad were one-and-the-same person. That story took wings after some over-imaginative apostles indulged in too much communion wine.

    The simple truth is Dad is God, and I’m just his Numero Uno Son.

  19. Zack T Says:

    Jesus H. CHrist,

    John 5:18 [NIV]
    For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill [Jesus]; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but [Jesus] was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

    Jesus (not H. Christ) claims to be omnipresent – Matthew 18:20, 28:20

    Isaiah 9:6-7 [ESV], “For a child is born, to us a son is given… and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace…”

    John 6:38-40, “For I [Jesus] have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me; and this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up at the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that every one who sees the Son and believes in him should have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
    (A mere man that came into the world from heaven??)

    John 8:58, “I tell you the truth,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” (NOT “I have already been”)

    John 17:5, “And now, Father, glorify me ]Jesus] in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
    (If Jesus was anything else but God, then what glory had He with the Father…. and BEFORE any creation? Last I recall, anything else but God was created.)

    So, begone from us, you false Christ…

    Gal 1:6-9: “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”

  20. Zack T Says:

    Jesus H. Christ,

    Exodus 20:7, Deuteronomy 5:11, the third of the Ten Commandments
    “You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.”

  21. Simon Thong Says:

    Jesus H. Christ is just an irreverent, silly goat who may think that using that pseudonym mocks or shocks christians.

  22. me Says:

    Thanks Scott not Simon.. they must be the Thong brother la..

    All the Christians must be confused by this Arius fella..

    Arianism with its fundamental Trinitarian controversy must not be looked upon as an isolated theory by its founder Arius. Its appeal, which began in Alexandria and spread through the whole Empire, must be seen in the context of the times. The Church emerged in a Jewish and Greek world. The question occupying this non-Christian world was the contrast between the “One and the Many, between the ultimate unity that lay behind the visible universe and the incalculable variety that exists in the world.”
    [Ward 1955, 38]

  23. Scott Thong Says:

    me quotes Arius like he knows him really well. Pray tell, what did Arianism teach, and why was it rejected by the church? In your own words so we laypeople can understand.

  24. me Says:

    Scott : i don’t know him la.. why don’t you do a research and i hope you get to know the truth..

    rotflmao : Hindu? we are talking about trinity in Christian here..

  25. Scott Thong Says:

    Then why la you cite him. So actually you have no idea what the whole issue is about, just that you noticed someone else citing it to bash Christianity, so you want to try it out too?

  26. Zack T Says:

    I’m rather fascinated at how some people (who purport to be a seeker of truth OR someone who wants others to seek the truth) do not actually do proper investigation before challenging someone else’s beliefs; in this case, Christians.

    In this case, I’m talking about ‘me’. me just spouts all sorts of questions (some of which were answered by the very blog post me is commenting in) and even makes note of some group that seemed to teach Trinity and from the reference, made to seem to the originator of the Trinity…
    but yet, as it turns out, me knows nothing about Arius, what he teaches, and what Trinity was he teaching and whether that ‘version’ of the Trinity is indeed the biblical Trinity that we, Christians who holds the bible as our only source of authority on earth, believe in.

    With that kind of ‘scholarly’ knowledge, who knows… me may just decide to pull out Hinduism’s version of a ‘trinity’ to argue against us. *shrugs*

  27. me Says:

    visit this..

    http://www.bibleislam.com/

    it is quite fascinating..

  28. haganah Says:

    In 2002, ‘Palestinian’ terrorists seized the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem and held priests and monks inside hostage for more than a month. The terrorists were eventually routed by the IDF and were expelled to several overseas destinations, but not before they had looted and destroyed much of the church’s interior.

    Now, the ‘Palestinian Authority’ would like you to make amends for the terrorists’ despicable behavior. Seeing as the Middle East synod was so supportive of the ‘Palestinian’ cause, the ‘Palestinians’ would like to give European taxpayers the opportunity to pay for the repair of the Church of the Nativity. As a ‘feel good’ bonus, you would also be able to tell yourselves that you are putting ‘Palestinians’ back to work for the first time since the ‘Palestinian Authority’ forced them to quit their (higher paying) jobs working for the evil, Jewish ‘settlers.’

    There’s even more cynicism in this project
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/140281

  29. haganah Says:

    Who cares what the Vatican thinks? The words of the Bible could not be clearer, not just on the issue of the promised land but also on the prohibition against changing the word of G-d.
    http://www.israellycool.com/2010/10/26/the-day-in-israel-tues-oct-26th-2010/

  30. haganah Says:

    “I Now Pronounce You Infidel and Swine”
    http://www.israellycool.com/2010/10/27/i-now-pronounce-you-infidel-and-swine/

  31. Nasaei Ahmad Says:

    “..each dimension distinct but “inseparable ?”

    Need further explanation about “inseparable” because when Jesus “died”, Holy Ghost and God the Father didn’t.. how is it inseparable?

    The we hear explanation by people who understood this according to his whim: “.. Only Jesus physical body died, not his spiritual being..” or..:

    “Actually Jesus wasn’t die.”

    Was he die, or wasn’t he? This question needs to be pinpointed first, before elaboration, maybe.

    1. Died or not died
    2. Inseparable or separable
    3. Both died and not died ?
    4. Does the Bible tells explicitly all those issues? or just people’s explanations ? (their ideas only)
    5. What is “inseparable” ?

    Trinity issue remains exclusive and complex for many people-including the Christians as well I think..

  32. Zack T Says:

    Nasaei, Nasaei,

    1, 3 –
    Do you believe our body can die?
    Do you believe our spirit can die?
    Or better.. do you believe ANY spirit can die?

    2, 5 –
    Is a husband separable from his wife?
    Physically, yes… In spirit, no (ideally).

    What is inseparable?
    Can you calculate the volume of a cube without any one of the three dimensions?
    Seriously, Nasaei….

    4 –
    Does the Quran talk about evolution explicitly? Or just people’s explanation?
    Does the Quran talk about a spherical earth explicitly? Or just people’s explanation?

    You’re just finding reasons to not accept our Christian doctrines, Nasaei… and these reasons of yours are very shallow and, as you can see, can be used against the Quran and Islam too.
    It’s like asking a Math teacher, can numbers really be calculated? Or is it just people’s own ideas?

    It’s no wonder Jesus talked about how people can’t even understand His parables that makes use of everyday earthly examples… let alone things of Heaven which no one has ever seen, except the one that came from Heaven.

  33. rotfl Says:

    Egyptology
    http://harassmap.org/

  34. rotfl Says:

    HarassMap Asks Egyptian Women to Plot Points of Sexist Behavior Via SMS
    http://harassmap.org/

  35. rotfl Says:

    Islamic divorce comes to Skype!

    Read on for the Rube Goldberg-esque series of events that awaits the accidental divorcée under Sharia (see also: Qur’an 2:229-230) if she wants to remarry her husband.

    Surely, she’s feeling profoundly “esteemed” and “elevated” right about now. “Talaq joke on Skype ends marriage,” by Pervez Iqal Siddiqui for Times News Network, October 27:
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/lucknow/Talaq-joke-on-Skype-ends-marriage/articleshow/6818970.cms

  36. Zack T Says:

    # me Says:
    October 27, 10 at 2:16 pm

    visit this..

    http://www.bibleislam.com/

    it is quite fascinating..

    After being revealed his/her lack of knowledge in what he/she’s challenging…
    it seems me has now resorted to just linking a website and not bringing his/her own arguments/questions/reasoning to the discussion.

    And of all the sites… by Islam, who have yet to ever represent the correct understanding of our biblical doctrines.

    Thus, proven, me is just out to just demean our biblical doctrines and not earnestly seek the truth or, at least, a good healthy discussion.

  37. Zack T Says:

    # me Says:
    October 27, 10 at 2:16 pm

    visit this..

    http: http://www.bibleislam.com/

    it is quite fascinating..

    It seems me has now abandoned any attempt to a good, healthy discussion by just linking us to a site…. a Muslim site, no less… of which I have yet to see any Muslim correctly represent our biblical doctrines. (I wonder why is that? Maybe because if they did, they’d be convinced of its truth?)

    I wonder what happened to me’s initial attitude… (notice longer and more demanding first few comments by me)

  38. Zack T Says:

    # me Says:
    October 27, 10 at 2:16 pm

    visit this..

    http: http://www.bibleislam.com/

    it is quite fascinating..

    Seems me’s comments have been reduced to just linking some general website… a Muslim one, too… of which I have yet to see ANY Muslim correctly represent the biblical doctrines of Christianity… (Why is that? Maybe because if they understood the correct biblical doctrines, they’d be won over by the truth?)

    So.. it is now established that me was (and sadly probably is still) not interested in seeking the truth. Just interested in demeaning our Christian beliefs…
    Note me’s initial comment which were more demanding and more aggressive (and also from me him/herself, at least)… and then after subsequent and sound responses to his/her comments, me is left with no more arguments/reasons of his/her own and just links a site with all (long ago and easily answered) arguments (by Muslims, of which me isn’t) and me just disappears (probably).

    Sad, it’s rather disappointing how commentors like these just can’t appreciate a good healthy discussion/dialogue.

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