For Just RM70,000 PROTON Saga EV Lets You Drive ALMOST From Ipoh to Penang and Die on the Expressway


Die as in the car battery, I mean.

Of course, stalling in the middle of the highway with the nearest charging station far, far away might make you literally die too, when a vehicle doing 110kmh says hi.

Excerpts from The Star 15 Sept 2011:

Proton delivers first batch of electric cars to Government
By ZUHRIN AZAM AHMAD
zuhrinazam@thstar.com.my

PUTRAJAYA: Proton has handed over the first batch of electric vehicles (EV) to the Government for testing and expects to mass produce them in two years.

The cars three Saga EVs and five Exora REEV or Range Extender Electric Vehicle will be used by the Prime Minister’s Department and four other ministries.

Proton Group managing director Datuk Seri Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir said the group was targeting to offer the vehicles to the public in 2013.

“We are looking at RM100,000 or lower for the Exora REEV and RM70,000 for the Saga EV.

“Yes, the price is 30% to 40% higher than conventional vehicles but users get to save on fuel and road tax,” Syed Zainal Abidin said.

He added that on a full tank of petrol, the Exora REEV could cover up to 700km while the Saga EV could travel up to 130km before it needed to be recharged.

So let’s do some math, and see how much driving around an electric model will save you.

Very generously assuming a conventional petrol-running RM30,000-priced car’s mileage costs of RM1.00 per kilometre against RM0.00 for the electric. Tack in RM70.00 for a 1,300cc car’s road tax against RM0.00 again for the electric. It would take, lessee… Just four years to break even on your fancy electric model’s price tag! And that’s not counting how long it takes for a full recharge (which is conveniently not mentioned) and assuming the battery doesn’t go kaput every four years and needs replacing, thus wiping out your precious, precious savings.

From Real Clear Markets:

Electric and hybrid-electric vehicles are more expensive to make and bring in less profit than other cars. They cost more to finance, more to repair, and more to insure. Their sales depend heavily on tax incentives, which means that selling more of them will require more taxpayer dollars.

Several crash tests have suggested that the plug-in hybrid Volt, the flagship vehicle at Government Motors, has a bit of a problem: when hit or badly disturbed in accident tests, the Volt’s Lithium-Ion (Li-ion) battery packs have been seen to spark, or burst into flames afterward.

While few may remember it now, GM’s EV-1 also had battery-related problems. In the case of the EV-1, fires, euphemistically known as “thermal incidents” were happening when people plugged the cars in to recharge. GM had to recall 600 of its first-generation electric cars after 16 such “thermal incidents” including one where the vehicle was engulfed in fire.

From Associated Press:

2nd electric car battery fire involving Chevy Volt

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said Friday that three Volt battery packs were crash-tested last week. In one instance, the battery caught fire afterward, and in another the battery emitted smoke and sparks.

Last May, a fire erupted in the battery of a Chevy Volt that had been damaged during a government crash test three weeks earlier. Last week’s tests were an attempt to replicate the May fire.

By the way, don’t count on any carbon or environmental savings.

How many multiple billions (of YOUR money, see here and here) were poured into something that no one is going to buy once it is finally released to market?

For comparison: $40,000 gets you an American GM Volt with a max range of maybe 80km per full charge (which takes 10 plus hours plugged in) – so the PROTON Saga EV wins on both counts of affordability and performance! Go PROTON! The GM Volt sells maybe 100 units a month (and Ford sells zero. Surely the far superior Saga EV will sell TEN TIMES as many units – which is like, I dunno, 1000 a month. At RM70,000 that means RM70 million for PROTON!!! That’s gotta be some record broken there somewhere, right? /sarc

See also related PROTON posts:

Outrageous – Saudis Pay Tens of Thousands Less Than Malaysians For PROTON Cars

Dr M: Proton Plans Exports ‘Cos Foreigners Like Them (Srsly!)

Hypocrite Dr Drama Mahathir Says Bank Bailouts Wrong, Ignores His Own Past Bailouts of ‘Failed Institutions’

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5 Responses to “For Just RM70,000 PROTON Saga EV Lets You Drive ALMOST From Ipoh to Penang and Die on the Expressway”

  1. Ron Says:

    Very generously assuming a conventional petrol-running RM30,000-priced car’s mileage costs of RM1.00 per kilometre against RM0.00 for the electric.

    Has Malaysia reduced its power rates to zero or dost thou espy thy neighbor’s electrical outlet?

    And that’s assuming the battery doesn’t go kaput every four years and needs replacing, thus wiping out your precious, precious savings.

    Please stop spreading FUD. Toyota, GM, and Nissan all offer 8 year/100,000 mile warranties on the battery and the price for replacement batteries is falling (and will continue to fall) as more vehicles hit the road. As for real-life longevity, several taxi owners across the country are now clocking over 200k miles.

    By the way, don’t count on any carbon or environmental savings.

    More BS. Had Malkin actually bothered to look up the report she would have read this:

    ELECTRIC and hybrid cars create more carbon emissions during their production than standard vehicles – but are still greener overall, according to a new report.

    The report highlights the increasing importance of accounting for whole life carbon emissions to compare the greenhouse gas emissions of low carbon vehicles. […]

    The study found that some of the CO2 savings made during the use of low carbon vehicles is offset by increased emissions created during their production, and to a lesser extent disposal. However, overall electric and hybrid vehicles still have lower carbon footprints than normal cars.

    For example, a typical medium sized family car will create around 24 tonnes of CO2 during its life cycle, while an electric vehicle (EV) will produce around 18 tonnes over its life.

    Greg Archer, LowCVP Managing Director, said: “This work dispels the myth that low carbon vehicles simply displace emissions from the exhaust to other sources. However, it does highlight the need to look at reducing carbon emissions from vehicles throughout their lifecycle.

    “The automotive industry is already taking positive steps to address this issue – the recent announcement by Toyota of a solar array to provide electricity to power the hybrid Auris
    production facility and wind power at the Nissan Leaf plant are excellent examples of this.

    And on page 3 there is a comparison table for total lifetime CO2 emissions (in tonnes):

    Standard gas – 24
    Hybrid vehicle – 21
    Plug-in hybrid – 21
    Battery electric – 19

    How many multiple billions (of YOUR money, see here and here) were poured into something that no one is going to buy once it is finally released to market? […]

    August US sales reports (multiple sources):

    Toyota Prius – 9,491
    Hyundai Sonata – 4,136
    Lexus CT 200h – 2,087
    Nissan Leaf – 1,362
    Honda Insight – 961
    Honda CRZ – 745
    Lincoln Escape – 563
    Lincoln MKZ – 491
    GM Volt – 302
    Lexus HS 250h – 284
    Ford Fusion – 216
    Honda Civic – 106

    Seems to me that people are buying fuel efficient vehicles.

    And up in Canada, the City of Vancouver is moving forward to become an electric vehicle friendly city.

  2. Ron Says:

    Link to LowCVP Report (pdf) (missing above)

  3. teoh Says:

    please dont tell anything if u didnt have any knowledge for this topic.btw perodua arent’s create or design thier own model,but they just take it from daihatsu or others.

  4. Scott Thong Says:

    Which means they didn’t take taxpayer money to ‘design their own’ cars, like PROTON did.

  5. Scott Thong, Leading Malaysian Neocon | weehingthong Says:

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