1873 Ottoman Empire Map – NO PALESTINE NOTED


Via The Jawa Report:

Ottoman Map 1873 No Palestine

It is important to note that this 1873 map is an Arabic map, so it can’t be brushed aside as a misunderstanding of the Ottoman Empire or Western propaganda.

…the area of Israel is called ” Wilayat Soorya” meaning “Province of Syria.”

This land was under the domination of the Ottomans for almost 500 years and NO WHERE can one read the word Palestine or Palestinian on it.

And another ancient source confirms:

Turkey’s top Muslim cleric, Professor Mehmet Görmez, had to say: […] “After the Prophet Omar conquered al-Quds he was invited to pray at a church (since there were no mosques in Jerusalem). But he politely refused because he was worried that the (conquering) Muslims could turn the church into a mosque after he prayed there.””

Bekdil continued, “Now, read that line once again, or a thousand times if you wish to: “After the Prophet Omar conquered al-Quds…” And think about why there were no mosques in Jerusalem at the time of the conquest. Still no clue? Allow me to explain: Because Jerusalem was not a Muslim city. And now you claim it back because it is under “Jewish occupation!” The refusal to pray at the church was very noble of the Prophet Omar. I personally do not expect you, dear Islamists, to behave as virtuously and gallantly as the prophet, but at least you can do something easier: Stop fighting for a city that belonged to other faiths before your ancestors conquered it.”

From WND: Who are the Palestinians?:

By all eyewitness accounts of that era, Palestine was a total desolation. There were virtually no trees and no people. Because of lack of trees, the weather changed and it rarely ever rained. The irrigation systems of the once fertile valleys were all destroyed, rendering most areas into malaria-ridden swamps. The terraces of the mountainsides were torn down, causing terrible erosion that left only barren rocks. This was the condition of Palestine by the beginning of the 19th century.

It was at this time that Jews began to flee severe persecutions in Russia and Eastern Europe. In the mid-1800s, some Jews came to Palestine and, with the generous aid of some successful Jews like the Rothschilds, began to buy property from Muslim Ottoman Turks. The Muslims thought the land was worthless anyway, so they sold it to the “dumb Jews” for extremely inflated prices.

To everyone’s amazement, the Jews were very successful at reclaiming the land. Many of them died from malaria and the rigorous life the work demanded, but they performed an agricultural miracle that made the land very productive again. As a result of their success, poor migrant workers from the surrounding Muslim countries began to flood in to work for the Jews. The Jews literally became victims of their own success – almost all of the people calling themselves “Palestinians” today are the descendants of those migrant workers.

Much more is said and documented on this subject in my book. But the main point is this: The Muslims have repeatedly shown they understand these things. Since they know that the so-called “Palestinians” are not a homogeneous people, but rather a mixed conglomerate of workers with no cohesive organizational or political skills, they have repeatedly not given them a state.

Via 7th Rangers:

A representative from Israel began: “Before beginning my talk I want to tell you something about Moses.

When he struck the rock and it brought forth water, he thought, ‘What a good opportunity to have a bath! He removed his clothes, put them aside on the rock and entered the water.

When he got out and wanted to dress, his clothes had vanished. A Palestinian had stolen them.”

The Palestinian representative jumped up furiously and shouted, “What are you talking about? The Palestinians weren’t there then!”

The Israeli representative smiled and said, “And now that we have made that clear, I will begin my speech.”

See more arguments as follows:

Combined 816 mentions by name and synonym Zion. And zero times by name in the Quran.

Global March to Jerusalem Aims to Reverse 3000 Years of History

4000 Years in 4 minutes – Israel Animated History

See also amazing archaeological finds confirming the Bible’s historical claims at this site.

And more: Search for ‘Israel’ on my blog

7 Responses to “1873 Ottoman Empire Map – NO PALESTINE NOTED”

  1. Zack T Says:

    There was a ‘Philistine’ in the bible…
    Would that count?

  2. Scott Thong Says:

    No, because the Romans intentionally called the area ‘Palestine’ after enemies of Israel to spite the occupied Jews. So basically everyone living in the area became a ‘Palestinian’ – but they were not predominantly Arabs as the modern ‘Palestinians’ are.

  3. 1873 Ottoman Empire Map – NO PALESTINE NOTED « Samlade saker Says:

    […] > 1873 Ottoman Empire Map NO PALESTINE NOTED […]

  4. Amar Chebib Says:

    Prophet Omar? There is no prophet in Islam called “Omar”. Omar was the second khalif (Islamic leader) after Abu Bakr: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar

    There was no “Palestine” noted in the map because the idea of “Palestine” as an individual country never existed. As you mentioned, written in Arabic is “Wilayat Suriya” or “The Province of Syria”. This notion of a Greater Syria continues in the Arab world under the name “Bilad Al-Sham”. These individual nation states (like Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, PALESTINE etc) were created by the British/French under the Sykes-Picot agreement after the fall of the Ottoman Empire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement

    There was no mosque in Jerusalem because when Omar was there in 637 AD was still part of the Byzantine Empire and at the very beginning of Islam. Using this as an argument to say “it was not a Muslim city” is like saying 8,000 years ago (before Judaism or Christianity even existed) there were no Jews/Christians there.

    It became part of the Islamic Empire in 637 AD under which Jews and Christians were permitted to practice their religions in peace. It remained this way until the fall of the Ottoman Empire 1300 years later. It doesn’t “belong” to any religion as it is holy city for all three of the Abrahamic religions. During the Crusades the Jews actually fought side-by-side with Muslims in Jerusalem to protect the city from the invaders.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_the_Crusades

    This Jews vs Muslims thing is a recent artificial fabrication that has no historical basis. With the appropriation of Jerusalem by the Zionists (Zionism is not Judaism) it has become an apartheid state and the opposite of the multicultural/multifaith diversity it enjoyed under the Islamic empires, especially the Ottoman Empire.

    I’m sorry but you have an extremely weak argument and judging by you calling Omar a “prophet” you obviously don’t know very much about Islamic history or the lands associated with it.

  5. Scott Thong Says:

    There was no mosque in Jerusalem because when Omar was there in 637 AD was still part of the Byzantine Empire and at the very beginning of Islam. Using this as an argument to say “it was not a Muslim city” is like saying 8,000 years ago (before Judaism or Christianity even existed) there were no Jews/Christians there.

    Uhhhh isn’t that the exact gist of my logic in the first place?

    —————————

    There was no “Palestine” noted in the map because the idea of “Palestine” as an individual country never existed.

    Whereas the idea of ‘Israel’ has existed for only like 50 years or something.

    —————————

    It became part of the Islamic Empire in 637 AD under which Jews and Christians were permitted to practice their religions in peace.

    Ah yes, as we all know it was the evil Crusaders who started all the problems between the faiths all the way back in 1095 A.D. with their 461 years of invading, pillaging and enslaving Muslim lands.

    Oh, wait… Never mind.

    ————————–

    It doesn’t “belong” to any religion as it is holy city for all three of the Abrahamic religions.

    Yes of course! Just because Jerusalem is specifically mentioned 655 times in the Old Testament, 146 times in the New Testament, and 0 times in the Quran totally does not demonstrate that certain religions legitimately look towards that city more than other religions.

    —————————

    During the Crusades the Jews actually fought side-by-side with Muslims in Jerusalem to protect the city from the invaders.

    So when the Western European crusaders took Jerusalem from the Muslims they were invaders… But when the Muslims conquerors took Jerusalem from the Byzantines they became the proper and rightful stewards of the city.

    Yes yes, it all makes perfect sense now.

    And while we’re on the idea of ‘Let’s look at who the Jews want to be in charge of Jerusalem’, why wouldn’t you know it, these days the Jews wants Jews to be in charge! I’m sure you will completely respect their wishes in full consistency with your logic above.

    —————————

    This Jews vs Muslims thing is a recent artificial fabrication that has no historical basis.

    Yeah, just like how…

    The Banu Qurayza Jews had no issues with Mohammad… And even if they did, it’s the Crusaders’ fault. Or something.

    The Granada Jews had no issues with the Andalusian Muslims… And even if they did, it’s George W. Bush’s fault. Or something.

    —————————

    With the appropriation of Jerusalem by the Zionists (Zionism is not Judaism) it has become an apartheid state and the opposite of the multicultural/multifaith diversity it enjoyed under the Islamic empires, especially the Ottoman Empire.

    Funny how that Zionist apartheid results in the most diverse and tolerant nation in the Middle East by far.

    And under Zionist rule, all three major religions can access and run their own holy sites… Instead of, you know, the evuuuuul Zionists demolishing those mosques so that they can rebuild their Jewish Temple on the mountain. I guess they’re just TOO EVUUUUUL to demolish those mosques, or something!

    Whereas before they took over, the Islamic holy sites were soooooo important to the Muslims, that they let it decay and be overrun with weeds:

    —————————-

    I’m sorry but you have an extremely weak argument and judging by you calling Omar a “prophet” you obviously don’t know very much about Islamic history or the lands associated with it.

    That is an issue you will have to take up with Burak Bekdil who stated it, which I merely quote.

  6. ha Says:

    The map is cut off from the bottom. i ahve an ottoman map and it clearly says falsteen near the sinai

  7. Scott Thong Says:

    Do scan share it then, and note the date of the map too!

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s


%d bloggers like this: