JOHN 6 & DRAW


No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day. – John 6:44 First off, as Kevin Thompson (Beyond the Fundamentals) points out… Why is the word CAN in there? Can implies possibility, not certainty. That doesn’t fit with deterministic Irresistible Grace. Shouldn’t the word used instead be WILL? Or even no word at all? No one comes to me unless the Father who sent me draws Him – John 6:44, CCV (Consistent Calvinist Version). In Calvinism, John 6:44 has ‘an empty can’ as below: empty-metal-food-canejohn6irresistibly How does the Father draw people? Is it by Irresistible Grace? Let Scripture interpret Scripture, just go to the very next verse. It is written in the Prophets, ‘And they will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me – John 6:45 So the drawing is by hearing and learning, not by a mysterious and inexplicable force. The immediate hearers of these words had the Old Testament writings, read out in the synagogues weekly. Scripture testifies to the coming of Messiah, and once Jesus pointed it out to the disciples then we have this effective grace from God fully open to us. Note also the word WILL that is in this verse, which wasn’t in the preceding verse. And skip down a few verses where Jesus says almost the same thing, but with a slight change: And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.” – John 6:65 So the drawing = the granting. It is by God’s granted grace yes, but we must also have the desire and intention to come to Jesus. See also where Jesus compares Himself to the bronze serpent back in Moses’ time, and says He will draw ALL people when He is lifted up. The offer of healing was open to all, but they had to make the choice to look up at in order for the promise to take place. Their free choice is why not all are saved, Limited Atonement is not necessary. And again, WILL appears in John 12:32. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. – John 3:14-15 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself. – John 12:32 So Moses made a bronze serpent and set it on a pole. And if a serpent bit anyone, he would look at the bronze serpent and live. – Numbers 21:9 And as pointed out here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF_Iwuh2IUw , the sequence could very naturally be understood as the Father draws, then gives to the Son (John 6:37). Picture drawing a bucket of water from a well and passing it to someone. Note that in the video, James White takes the view than draw from v44 directly = hearing & learning from v45. PS. Consider also, if John 6:44-45 is about the Irresistible Grace of the Holy Spirit, how can it be so when the Holy Spirit had not yet been given – as John Piper admits with confusion? https://soteriology101.com/2019/04/29/why-john-piper-is-wrong-about-john-6/ Versus, if the ‘drawing’ is the word of God as revealed in even the Old Testament.

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