Context: Tim is talking about his book, which derives from his thesis done in a strongly Reformed college and submitted to a staunchly Calvinist board – so if anything was amiss in his research and claims about Reformed writings, they’d have shot it down!

42:00 Quote, not a few of the proponents and critics of the Reformed doctrine of free choice and divine willing have confused the specifically soteriological determination of the Reformed doctrine of predestination with a divine determinism of all human actions, end quote.

43:26 You know I surveyed everybody from Augustine to Aquinas and the pre-Reformation and then I started with, I went from Luther and Melanchthon, Calvin, all the way through to Dort. And then I did post-Reformation and studied Jonathan Edwards. Seems to me that the only one of them who consistently and clearly affirmed Exhaustive Divine Determinism was Jonathan Edwards. So I think many of these EDD folks who we see today, I want to call them Calvinists, I call them Edwardians because they really seem to oppose much of what Calvin, not to mention Luther and Melanchthon and others said.

45:24 The name that always comes out in trying their best to form a coherent doctrine of determinism is Edwards. Which funny enough was very philosophical in his approach to it. I mean, so you know you’re not fighting a bunch of Biblical theological arguments for determinism off of Edwards, you’re gonna get some good philosophy.


  1. Rob Says:

    Calvinism fully expanded in a nutshell:

  2. br.d Says:

    Reformed thinker, Dr. Oliver Crisp, in his book “Deviant Calvinism: Broadening Reformed Theology” seeks to show that the Reformed tradition is historically much broader and more variegated than is often thought.

    Crisp believes reformed thinkers throughout its history have held differing positions on the Exhaustiveness of divine determinism within Calvinism.

    However the proposition that *ALL* things without exception, which come to pass within the course of time, are divinely determined at the foundation of the world, leaving *Nothing* undetermined, would clearly indicate Exhaustiveness.

    Dr. William Lane Craig would agree, classifying Calvinism as founded on UNIVERSAL Divine Causal Determinism, where the term UNIVERSAL indicates Exhaustiveness.

    Dr. Crisp however, sees within the history of reformed thinkers, a deviation from the position of Exhaustiveness, actually allowing for a limited degree of Libertarian freedom for the creature. Thus the title of his book “Deviant Calvinism”.

    Dr. Crisp concludes that Jon Edwards caused, a –quote “Watershed moment” in reformed thinking, by shifting it into the realm of academic philosophy, with its adaptation of freedom known as “Compatibilism”.

    Current reformed thinkers Paul Helm’s and Dr. Neal Anderson strongly disagree with Crisp’s position, arguing that any form or degree of Libertarian freedom for the creature is –quote “ruled out” Determinism, and is therefore logically incoherent.

    Helm’s, Anderson, and Guilluame Bignon all concur, that a “proper” understanding of the reformed position affirms Exhaustive Divine Determinism.

    Making it the case that impulses and inclinations which come to pass within the human brain, are not limited to “Salvific” impulses/inclinations.

    But rather *ALL* human impulses and inclinations without exception, are infallibly decreed at the foundation of the world, and come to pass within the human brain infallibly and thus irresistibly.

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