Archive for January 17th, 2023
TEXTUAL VARIANTS & INTERPRETATION
January 17, 23DAVID PAWSON ON THE FOUR STAGES OF BEING BORN AGAIN
January 17, 23So on a recommendation/challenge from a friend I’ve listened through this introductory series by David Pawson and would like to know your thoughts on it.
He explains the four steps (RBBR, mnemonically recalled as rubber) to being born again that he’s known for promoting (in his very steady, properly pronounced & enunciated British schoolteacher style):
Belief in Jesus
Baptism
Receiving the Holy Spirit
His view is that without all four steps which are taught in the New Testament (passage citations given), one doesn’t get the full benefits of being born again. Various groups will focus on one or the other (e.g. baptismal regeneration or gifts of the Spirit), but neglect the others.
NB: He’s not a Calvinist, and his reasonings in Video 4 (baptism) for why babies shouldn’t be baptised would get him called a Pelagian by the usual types we know.
DAVID PAWSON ON PREDESTINATION
January 17, 23God has predestined something for everyone, but that doesn’t mean we cannot resist or reject His plans for us – as the potter & clay in Jeremiah teaches, what our destiny is depends on how we respond.
And what are we chosen for? Service. Who is chosen? People, not individuals.
And the truest part… So often the above views are dismissed as Arminianism, by those who have never actually read the works of Arminius!
Two Walls of the Exodus
January 17, 231) The destruction of Sodom which is very likely Tall el-Hammam corresponding to Genesis 19 (see the essay at My Theological Essays);
2) The destruction of Jericho corresponding to Joshua 6.
The birth of Isaac in Genesis 21 cannot come before the meteoric airburst nuked Tall el-Hammam. The birth of Jacob, his twelve sons, the Sojourn, the Exodus and the Wandering follows that. And the Conquest kicks off with the walls of Jericho falling flat (as proven by excavations).
The Exodus must come between the total destruction of those two cities. If those events can be correctly dated, any Egyptian chronology or links to contemporary culture must be subservient to that date range.
THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES & DIVINE ASEITY
January 17, 23So I had a sudden realization followed by some thoughts which are probably running too much on a very wooden, literal reading of a passage.
Divine aseity, God is perfect in His own existence, doesn’t need anything. That is what YHWH means, “He is”.
But Phil 2:9-10 says “Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow” – the highest name is not YHWH, but Yeshua: “YHWH saves”.
This not only implies there is a subject for YHWH to verb upon. If it were “YHWH loves” it would not be an issue since the members of the Trinity can eternally love among one another (a capability Allah or other Unitarian views lack).
But “YHWH saves” implies an imperfect subject to be saved. Since YHWH is perfect, the imperfect subject must be something else created. This would then imply that contra aseity, it is objectively higher that YHWH does create.
(There ARE some views that do go so far to say that YHWH must necessarily create, such as Essential Kenosis, the views of Jurgen Moltmann, or the logical conclusion of Divine Simplicity.)
Thoughts?
WHAT’S YOUR HERMENEUTIC?
January 17, 23Christianity: Take the whole Bible’s narrative where we are constantly told to choose & respond; interpret a few possibly unclear passages using that overarching paradigm.
Calvinism: Start from a handful of prooftexts interpreted using philosophical presuppositions; interpret the rest of the Bible through that lens.
ANNIHILATION & CHOOSING TO BE CREATED
January 17, 23Oh hey, I just realised this kind of silly logical conclusion.
You know that ridiculous Calvinist conflation whereby “So you think you choose to be born again? Do you remember when you chose to be born the first time?” (basically committing the same fallacious reasoning as Nicodemus)
The similar argument goes that, since we didn’t consent to being created & existing, therefore we don’t consent to being saved either.
Well if Annihilationism is true… Then in a way, not consenting to be saved IS not consenting to continue existing!
Makes me wonder what Chris Date (Calvinist, Annihilationist) thinks of this logic.
SHEEP RECOGNISING THE SHEPHERD’S VOICE
January 17, 23Skip to 1:00 if you want just the successful attempt after wannabes give it a try.
The key takeway I realised is this: The sheep don’t start out automatically recognising and following the shepherd’s voice. They weren’t conceived or born already knowing the shepherd. They had to LEARN his voice and learn to trust him over time.
The Jews who heard Jesus preach and us today know Jesus is our shepherd because we have learned to recignize and trust him as our Great Shepherd (John 10:14-16). To the Jews who had only the Old Testament, this was through the words of The Father (John 6:44-45).
QUICK METHOD TO CHECK IF SOMEONE HAS HAD EXPOSURE TO OLD TESTAMENT STUDIES
January 17, 23Mention that the individual named Satan, the Devil of the New Testament, is not in the book of Job… And see if they are shocked at this.