Posts Tagged ‘Raja Petra Kamarudin’

Some Additional Bible Info on Lot and Daughters for RPK

April 16, 14

So RPK has a piece today entitled Islam bashing is actually Christianity bashing, in which he actually kinda does bash Christianity’s morals.

The relevant portion of his article, bolded portions for emphasis done by me:

Take the story of Sodom and Gomorrah from Genesis as one example. Malays know what the Qur’an has to say about this episode. But do they know what the Bible says? Not many do.

Genesis tells us that God wanted to test the people of Lot’s community so He sent two angels disguised as very ‘jambu’ men to that community (if you do not know what jambu means then go ask your Malay friends). And Lot took these two jambu as his guests for the night.

The men in Lot’s community then went berserk. They wanted Lot to surrender these two jambu to the wild crowd so that they can gang rape them. Lot refused and instead offered his two virgin daughters as replacements. They can gang rape his two virgin daughters if they leave the two angels disguised as jambu alone. But the crowd refused Lot’s two virgin daughters. They still wanted the two sexy men.

So God told Lot to take his family and leave that community because He was going to destroy the entire community. Lot and his family were told to leave and not look back. Unfortunately, Lot’s wife did not follow God’s wishes and looked back so she was turned into a pillar of salt.

Lot and his family were spared because they were all righteous people even though Lot had offered his two virgin daughters to be gang raped by the horde of sex-crazed people. Offering your two virgin daughters to be gang raped does not make you unrighteous.

After they had escaped, Lot’s two virgin daughters got him drunk and then had sex with him. Then they became pregnant. But God did not destroy them because they were righteous although they had sex with their own father and got pregnant. Only if you have gay sex will God destroy you.

That is what Christianity teaches us. So what the government did to Anwar is not as bad as what God did to the people of Lot’s community. So why are we complaining about what the government did to Anwar when God did worse? God did not punish Lot for offering his two virgin daughters to be gang raped. In fact, God said Lot was righteous. God did not punish Lot’s daughters for having sex with their own father. In fact, God said they were righteous. God only punished those who have gay sex.

Although RPK goes on quite a bit in his article about reading the Bible, taking comparative religions and understanding religions other than one’s down, here his understanding is lacking and/or coloured by his Islamic background. I don’t blame him really, as many self-proclaimed Christians similarly would not know the following:

Righteousness as defined by Christianity has nothing to do with your deeds, save one: Faith in Jesus (and by extension, God).

There relevant passage:

What does Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.” Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness. – Romans 4:3-5

This is probably a very foreign, counter-intuitive and perhaps even downright wrong concept to a Muslim or someone steeped in an Islamic background. I know, as I’ve encountered such a different worldview before: Differences in Worldviews of Christianity vs Islam – As Supplied by menj

But the whole concept of Christianity is that nothing we do makes us worthy or forgiveness or salvation or heaven, it’s 100% about what Jesus did on the cross.

Sacraments? Good karmistic works? Five Pillars? None of these matter, for how can we ever compare to the holy and infinitely perfect Creator? (This is something that a Muslim can probably agree with.)

As Isaiah 64:6 laments, all our righteous acts are like filthy rags to Him! A single drop of our filth would contaminate His perfectly pure heaven – only Jesus’ divine redemptive sacrifice can truly and fully cleanse us.

All the ‘Heroes of Faith’ in Hebrews 11 are commended for believing in something they had no assurance of other than God’s word of honour. God promised it, and they lived like they believed it.

Hence when Lot is considered ‘righteous’ in 2 Peter 7-8, it is because he heard God’s message through the angels (leave town!) and believed (he left town).

And on a related point, it is not correct either to assume that the daughters’ de facto rape of their unale-to-give-legal-consent father did not result in any punishment or ill effects. An observant reader will realize just how serious the result of Lot’s family’s sin was – the children born of the incestuous, extra-marital act were named Moab and Bene-Ammon (Genesis 19:36-38). Generations later, the Moabites and the Ammonites were some of the most vicious enemies of their cousins Israel (i.e. the daughters’ father Lot’s uncle Abraham’s son Isaac’s son Jacob aka Israel).

So while faith leads to eternal salvation, earthly actions do have (often serious) consequences.


PS. This is not relevant to my points above, but I’m pretty sure the piece RPK cites that got him so riled up, Council of Islamic Ideology declares women’s existence anti-Islamic… Is actually satire.

PPS. Come to think of it, RPK keeps focusing on the ‘Sodom condemned for its homosexuality’ angle… But seems to ignore that Sodom involved attempted forcible gang rape too! Or is he saying that sort of thing should be ok?

10 Things To Do For RPK et al Now!

September 24, 08



The following is taken from Susan Loone and reposted on her request.

Do repost it on your blogs or email others!


Silence Him RPK Poster

Above image is from Free Raja Petra Kamarudin Tribute Posters. Kudos to Susan for featurage. Visit link for explanation of imagery.

THIS is what we can do for RPK (who just checked into the Kamunting Hotel for insulting the country’s leadership and Islam), all the other detainees and their families. The OBJECTIVES of this campaign is to (1) Demand for RPK’s freedom (2) Demand for freedom of all ISA detainees (3) Demand for the repeal of the EVIL ISA!

PLEASE help distribute this information as far and wide as you can, act on it – you DO NOT have to do it alone, find a few people, not necessarily a big group, 5 maybe 10, and spread the word and action around, if we do it with our hearts and souls, it will catch on, like fire…


Free Raja Petra Kamarudin Tribute Posters

September 23, 08

Silence Him RPK Poster

Raja Petra Kamarudin Public Enemy Number 1

Wanted Raja Petra Kamarudin

Click for full size. Above are from Malaysian Politics Motivational Posters.
Image of just RPK in Hannibal Lecter mask at bottom of full post.

If you’ve watched The Silence of the Lambs, you’ll recognize that as Hannibal Lecter’s anti-biting face mask strapped to RPK’s face.

The symbolism is that the BN authorities consider RPK a brutal, dangerous, insane, almost inhuman monster whom they must lock away for all time.

Sign the petition to free RPK!

In tribute to Raja Petra Kamarudin, who has just been ordered detained without trial for 2 years in the Kamunting detention camp under the ISA. Susan Loone has more on that.


Totally Outrageous!: Newspapers Reports, ISA Arrests and Blatant Double Standards

September 13, 08

UPDATES on ISA arrests at Susan Loone.

So let me get this straight…

Utusan Malaysia publishes a hearsay report accusing Teresa Kok of inflammatory conduct. Teresa Kok is arrested under the ISA on the basis of that insinuation.

Sin Chew publishes a well documented report of how Ahmad Ismail uttered inflammatory remarks in public. Sin Chew’s reporter is arrested under the ISA.

And Ahmad Ismail only gets three years… Of being excluded from UMNO.

Can it get any more blatantly double-standard than this????!!!!

Ahmad Ismail: A Monty Python Sketch

September 13, 08

Dedicated to the three newspapers facing show cause letters, and especially the Sin Chew reporter Tan Hoon Cheng arrested under the ISA…

For reporting about Ahmad Ismail’s racism which merely got him suspended from UMNO for 3 years.


The Ahmad Ismail Sketch

An arrogant-looking man is standing on a street corner by a political party’s banner, shouting his message at passers-by.

Arrogant Looking Man: Chinese are squatters! No equal rights for these pendatang! We will push the Chinese, push them, push them!!!

Reporter Lady who passes by is shocked by his outburst, and quickly goes into a nearby police station.

Reporter Lady: Excuse me, officer. I’d like to report an incident of Hate Speech.

Officer #1: Ya ke? Serious ni! Err, what did this Hate Speech sound like, madam?

Reporter Lady: Well, it was about the Chinese being squatters, and ‘push the Chinese’, and…

Officer #1 looks shocked.

Officer #1: Stop right there! I’m sorry madam, but I will have to arrest you for Hate Speech.

Reporter Lady: Wh-what?! But I’m not giving any Hate Speech!

Officer #1: Don’t take me for a fool, madam. You were saying it right here in front of me!


Reporting Racism is Racist – The Sun, Sin Chew Daily, Suara Keadilan Issued Show Cause Letters For ‘Sensitive Issues’ (And RPK ISAed)

September 12, 08

Hypocrisy Meter from theblogprof.

UPDATES on ISA arrests at Susan Loone.

Monty Python Malaysian Motivational Poster

Above is #46 from Malaysian Politics Motivational Posters

UPDATE midnight 13 Sept 2008: Sin Chew reporter and Teresa Kok ISAed.


The Home Ministry has asked three newspapers to show cause on why action should not be taken against them over their news coverage on a number of political issues.

Confirming this, the ministry’s Publications Control and Al-Quran Texts Unit secretary Che Din Yusof told Malaysiakini today that the three papers were English daily The Sun, Chinese newspaper Sin Chew Daily and opposition PKR’s party organ Suara Keadilan.

He said the ministry has issued the show-cause letters yesterday and the three papers had been given a week to reply.

According to him, The Sun was asked to show cause for allegedly “manipulating and playing up numerous sensitive issues”.

Meanwhile, Sin Chew has been targeted for its recent reports on the racial slur controversy involving Umno division leader Ahmad Ismail.

If a public figure says something seditious, and a newspaper reports it, the government goes after….. the newspaper?? 😐


Mahathir Definitely Likes Najib More Than Anwar

July 8, 08

An about turn!

From The Star 8 July 2008:

Mahathir: There’s a concerted campaign against Najib

KUALA LUMPUR: Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad is convinced that there is a concerted campaign against Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak and that “somebody is behind it” besides Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim.

The former prime minister said he could not understand why the Deputy Prime Minister was coming under constant attack, adding that he believed the allegations against Najib were all hearsay.

“There is a concerted campaign against Najib. I don’t know why. Not just by Anwar but also by this other chap (Malaysia Today editor) Raja Petra (Kamaruddin) and also a number of others.

“Somebody is working behind this, maybe to undermine Najib’s possibility of challenging the Prime Minister,” he said after calling on Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who is here to attend the 6th Developing Eight Nations Summit.

Dr Mahathir said there was no proof to the allegations against Najib.

“You can’t just say that I heard somebody did this. This is not proof,” he said.

Dr Mahathir said he could not understand why his former deputy (Anwar) was “going after Najib” when it was not the latter who reported on Anwar’s behaviour.

“I think he has always been attacking Datuk Najib. Maybe he thinks that Najib is standing in his way of becoming the Deputy Prime Minister or even the Prime Minister,” he said, adding that Anwar could never join Umno again as the party would not accept him.


This, from the man who has himself previously attacked Najib and undermined Najib’s credentials for the premiership.

Which may mean his mentioning that ‘somebody is behind the attack on Najib‘ besides Anwar (and Raja Petra) could actually be a veiled reference to what Conspiracy Theory Number 6 says.

Badawi Defends Najib, Says Never Received Military Intelligence

June 25, 08

Also reported by Malaysianiki.

From NST via Malaysia Today:

Malaysian PM says he doesn’t believe they are involved
By Carolyn Hong, The Straits Times

PRIME Minister Abdullah Badawi yesterday dismissed allegations that the wife of his deputy Najib Razak was involved in the murder of a Mongolian interpreter.

Datuk Seri Abdullah also said that he had not received military intelligence on the matter.

‘I don’t believe that Najib and Rosmah (Mansor) are involved in this case,’ Mr Abdullah told reporters yesterday.

It was the first time that the Prime Minister was responding to the allegations made in a statutory declaration filed in court last week by blogger Raja Petra Kamarudin.

And it was also the first time that the names of Datuk Seri Najib and his wife were mentioned in the open by a top official, although conspiracy theories over the murder of Mongolian Altantuya Shaariibuu have been raging for months.

The mainstream media has reported the sworn statement by Raja Petra but only in general terms and has not identified Datin Seri Rosmah by name, until now.

Mr Abdullah was asked about the matter by reporters after an official meeting yesterday.

Ms Altantuya, 28, was killed in October 2006, and her former lover Abdul Razak Baginda has been charged with abetting in her murder.

Two police officers from the Special Action Force are charged with the killing.

Raja Petra, 58, who is already facing a sedition charge over an article linking Mr Najib to the murder, had linked Ms Rosmah to the case in his sworn statement.

He also alleged that a Malaysian ruler is aware of the matter, and that a report had been given to the Prime Minister and his influential son-in-law Khairy Jamaluddin.

‘It is stated (in Raja Petra’s statutory declaration) that I received a report from the military intelligence. That is not correct,’ Mr Abdullah said.

He added: ‘Of course I am concerned (over the allegations). What Raja Petra did is unacceptable…because what he stated is incorrect.’

The Premier said the Attorney-General has told him that an investigation will be carried out and action will be taken against Raja Petra.

The Altantuya murder has been a political hot potato for Mr Najib and the government since the case became public knowledge.

Mr Najib last month spoke in Parliament about the issue for the first time.

‘As a responsible citizen, and to uphold justice and truth, I am stating again that I do not know, nor have even met, the woman referred to in this case as I have explained several times,’ he said.

The allegations by Raja Petra are seen by some political observers as a move to tarnish the image of Mr Najib.

He has been named by Mr Abdullah as the next prime minister, a transition that could happen soon as the Prime Minister has been under siege since the March 8 polls.

Outside Umno, the opposition has been targeting Mr Najib in an attempt to hurt his reputation and weaken the Barisan Nasional coalition.


And Najib himself calls RPK’s claims ‘total lies and fabrication’.

So who is telling the truth here? If not RPK, why would he do something so foolishly suicidal?

Previous happenings related to the RPK/Najib/Rosmah/Altantuya controversy and allegations:

Raja Petra to be Questioned by Police – Yet Again

Raja Petra Kamarudin Has Declared War!

Raja Petra Kamarudin Chooses Jail Rather Than Pay RM 5,000 Bail


Above is Poster #31 from Malaysian Politics Motivational Posters

Raja Petra to be Questioned by Police – Yet Again

June 24, 08

Via Susan Loone – RPK to be hauled up tomorrow:

From The Star 23 June 2008:

Cops to probe RPK’s claims

KUALA LUMPUR: Police will be calling up Malaysia Today editor Raja Petra Kamaruddin to investigate allegations in his recent statutory declaration on purported facts related to the murder of Altantuya Shaariibuu.

Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan said the three individuals named in the document filed on June 18 would also be called up.

In the declaration, Raja Petra claimed that the trio – one of them a prominent woman – were present at the scene during the murder of the Mongolian translator in October 2006.

Copies of the two-paged declaration together with the identity of the trio have been posted on various blog sites.

In the document, Raja Petra said he was “reliably informed” of these allegations.

Musa said the matter could be sub judice as the Altantuya murder case was still being heard.

He also said Raja Petra must be “brave enough to face the consequences if he is bold enough” to make the allegations.

Meanwhile, the Attorney-General’s Chambers has lodged a police report against Raja Petra over the statutory declaration.

Attorney-General Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail said the allegations were “highly defamatory” and if found untrue, those making the allegations would have to face the consequences.

“We want to investigate because we want the truth. As far as I am concerned, we have to look at it seriously.”

“If it’s true, we will act accordingly. If not, the writer will be investigated,” he said, adding that the report was lodged in Putrajaya on Saturday.

Raja Petra said he expected to be called up.

He said he was bold enough to face the consequences.

Playing right into Raja Petra’s prepared hands.

Note how the lightly-treading GEM (Government Enslaved Media) was careful not to mention the actual accusations made by RPK at all. Nor do they reveal the identity of the accused ‘prominent woman’, though they see fit to name RPK. (The woman is Datin Seri Rosmah Mansor, Najib’s wife.)

At least all three of those accused by RPK will be hauled in for questioning too.

Do you really think he wouldn’t have solid proof before he made that official statement, signed it and released it to the entire world? (Raja Petra Kamarudin Has Declared War!)

And do you think he hasn’t made backup, failsafe plans in the event that he is ‘silenced’ – being experienced as he is with the conspiratorial workings of the powers he is challenging? (Raja Petra Kamarudin Chooses Jail Rather Than Pay RM 5,000 Bail)


Above is Poster #31 from Malaysian Politics Motivational Posters

The endgame approaches…

Just Short of 5000 Hits That Day

June 23, 08

Thanks to parasitizing Malaysiakini for 2626 clicks and Raja Petra’s shock announcement, my blog almost broke the 5000 hits a day mark.

For a while, I was also the 11th top post on WordPress for 21 June 2008! One more rank and I’d appear on the Hot Posts lists! So close…

If the Obamamites had been more active just a wee bit…

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