SEVERUS SNAPE & JIM CARREY DO A DEBATE

I was looking forward to see what good arguments the Determinists bring as the second to speak, after the Free Will side used convincing logic and Scripture.

Instead first we get Severus Snape spouting in a venomous tone, appealing to writer’s quotes, and lumping the Free Will side with those (bad, bad, wrong, bad!) Catholics. Then we get an overactor taking a mocking tone like his role model is Jim Carrey at his prime. And both argue against a straw man of “They elevate muh man’s free will above God” and hardly any Scripture. It’s straw man after logical fallacy after false dilemma after flat assertion all through the debate.

Much disappoint. A friend put it more concisely: “2 man-children stuck in their cage stage”.

These guys do show they can talk like normal human adults during the rebuttal onwards. But although their presentation improved, their attitude doesn’t. One of them catches himself calling his opponents brothers (fellow believers in Christ), and actually corrects himself. Because as he has to answer during the Q&A, he isn’t sure they understand the grace of God.

Although IMO the Free Will side should have repeatedly challenged the Determinist side every time the latter cited Bible passages:

1) That passage doesn’t state that God determines thoughts and desires of that person.
2) Even if it did, the passage doesn’t state that this extends to all people, in all occasions – a fallacy of Faulty Generalization.