No-Hope Atheism, Dawkins’ God Delusion and Bullying Liberal Professors Cause Suicide


From World Net Daily:

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Dad links son’s suicide to ‘The God Delusion’
Says atheism-promoting book hidden under mattress, last page bookmarked

A New York man is linking the suicide of his 22-year-old son, a military veteran who had bright prospects in college, to the anti-Christian book “The God Delusion” by Richard Dawkins after a college professor challenged the son to read it.

“Three people told us he had taken a biology class and was doing well in it, but other students and the professor were really challenging my son, his faith. They didn’t like him as a Republican, as a Christian, and as a conservative who believed in intelligent design,” the grief-stricken father, Keith Kilgore, told WND about his son, Jesse.

“This professor either assigned him to read or challenged him to read a book, ‘The God Delusion,’ by Richard Dawkins,” he said.

Jesse Kilgore committed suicide in October by walking into the woods near his New York home and shooting himself. Keith Kilgore said he was shocked because he believed his son was grounded in Christianity, had blogged against abortion and for family values, and boasted he’d been debating for years.

After Jesse’s death, Keith Kilgore learned of the book assignment from two of his son’s friends and a relative. He searched Jesse’s room and found the book under the mattress with his son’s bookmark on the last page.

The first inkling of a reason for the suicide came, Keith Kilgore told WND, when one of Jesse’s friends came to visit after word of his son’s death circulated.

“She was in tears [and said] he was very upset by this book,” Keith Kilgore said. “‘It just destroyed him,’ were her words.

Then another friend at the funeral told me the same thing,” Keith Kilgore said. “This guy was his best friend, and about the only other Christian on campus.

“The third one was the last person that my son talked to an hour before [he died,]” Keith Kilgore told WND, referring to a member of his extended family whose name is not being revealed here.

That relative, who had struggled with his own faith and had returned to Christianity, wrote in a later e-mail that Jesse “started to tell me about his loss of faith in everything.”

“He was pretty much an atheist, with no belief in the existence of God (in any form) or an afterlife or even in the concept of right or wrong,” the relative wrote. “I remember him telling me that he thought that murder wasn’t wrong per se, but he would never do it because of the social consequences – that was all there was – just social consequences.

“He mentioned the book he had been reading ‘The God Delusion’ by Richard Dawkins and how it along with the science classes he had take[n] had eroded his faith. Jesse was always great about defending his beliefs, but somehow, the professors and the book had presented him information that he found to be irrefutable. He had not talked … about it because he was afraid of how you might react. … and that he knew most of your defenses of Christianity because he himself used them often. Maybe he had used them against his professors and had the ideas shot down.”

He then explained to Jesse his own personal journey of seeking “other explanations of God’s existence” and told of his ultimate return.

“I told him it was my relationship with God, not my knowledge of Him that brought me back to my faith. No one convinced me with facts. … it was a matter of the heart.”

Keith Kilgore believes it was a biology class that raised questions for his son, and a biology professor at Jefferson Community College in Watertown, N.Y., where his son was attending, who suggested the book.

A school spokeswoman told WND that the “God Delusion” was not a part of the biology curriculum, and several of the professors she contacted said they had not even read the book. However, the spokeswoman was unable to contact all of the professors in the department and could not state that none of them had suggested the book to Jesse.

Local police also did not respond to WND inquiries about the investigation into the death.

“One of his friends, and his uncle (they did not know each other) both told me that Jesse called them hours before he took his life and that he had lost all hope because he was convinced that God did not exist, and this book was the cause,” Keith Kilgore told WND.

Keith Kilgore, a retired military chaplain who has dealt with the various stages of grief and readily admits he’s still in the “anger” stage over his son’s death, said his son apparently had checked the “Delusion” out of the college library.

“I’m all for academic freedom,” Keith Kilgore said. “What I do have a problem with is if there’s going to be academic freedom, there has to be academic balance.

“They were undermining every moral and spiritual value for my [son],” he said. “They ought to be held accountable.”

He suggested the moral is for Christians simply to abandon public schools wholly.

“Here’s another thing,” he continued. “If my son was a professing homosexual, and a professor challenged him to read [a book called] ‘Preventing Homosexuality’… If my son was gay and [the book] made him feel bad, hopeless, and he killed himself, and that came out in the press, there would be an outcry.

“He would have been a victim of a hate crime and the professor would have been forced to undergo sensitivity training, and there may have even been a wrongful death lawsuit.

“But because he’s a Christian, I don’t even get a return telephone call,” the father told WND.

He said he tried to verify the book assignment himself several times, without getting a response from the school.

Jesse Kilgore blogged on NetPotion and Newblog, and the writings that remained mostly addressed social ills and how anti-Christian many of the world’s developments appeared to be.

Dawkins, considered one of the world’s most outspoken atheists, is a professor in the United Kingdom. He came to prominence in 1976 with his book “The Selfish Gene,” promoting evolution.

In his “Delusion” treatise he claims that a supernatural creator almost certainly does not exist and that faith qualifies as a “delusion” – a fixed false belief.

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May the Lord have mercy on his soul that had been deceived by the hate-filled mockery of self-important atheism.

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33 Responses to “No-Hope Atheism, Dawkins’ God Delusion and Bullying Liberal Professors Cause Suicide”

  1. Samuel Skinner Says:

    And people complained “The God Delusion” wouldn’t change anyones mind.

  2. Scott Thong Says:

    Hey! You’re back! Long time no see.

  3. hutchrun Says:

    “Keep an Eye Out for Albino Squirrels and Other Ghostly Sightings”–headline

    http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Keep-an-eye-out-for.4777035.jp

  4. hutchrun Says:

    “Keep an Eye Out for Albino Squirrels and Other Ghostly Sightings”–headline

    news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Keep-an-eye-out-for.4777035.jp

  5. gobrov Says:

    I think this guy must be nominated to Darwin Awards.

  6. Scott Thong Says:

    I think you do not understand what a Darwin Award is, despite the fact that you used the Wikipedia entry for it as your website.

    The above case fails TWO of the five criteria which your helpfully provided Wikipedia entry lists. If you count depression from reading astoundingly bad literature, it fails criteria four as well.

    You plain and simple DNDTR.

    Lame.

  7. simon thong Says:

    Obviously, he can’t understand much of what he reads, or if he does, ignores it.

  8. gobrov Says:

    What two criteria did you mention? Regarding “mental defect” one may speculate that he freed himself from it, having said “bye-bye” to Christian fairy tales.

  9. Scott Thong Says:

    1) Excellence – This death is astoundingly mediocre and run of the mill in its execution.
    2) I cannot remember, but you may insert Maturity

    I recall the Wikipedia entry to be slightly different – either it has been changed, or I was rushed when I cited two criteria + potentially number four.

    As for mental defect, I’ll give that Christianity may be regarded by some as make-believe fiction.

    However, that would display ignorance of several factually proven historical correlations with the Bible – such as this one.

    Furthermore, a mental condition that keeps one alive can hardly be defined as a ‘defect’. Seeing as how atheism led to death, in this case atheism is clearly the mental defect.

    If religious belief is a mental defect, then apparently various renowned physicists and logical thinking former atheists are defective as well.

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    So tell me… Why are you an atheist, if that’s what you are?

    You can telle me here.

  10. wits0 Says:

    Darwinism is seriously flawed because it implied that Nihilism is the acceptable conclusion, that for all that’s worth, there is no hope or meaning, none, for all the suffering and unsatisfactoriness that life contains. Even to a non theist, it becomes apparent that at least the Church, e.g. offered hope, subject to certain conditions. 😉

  11. simon thong Says:

    Hope is endemic to the human race. Anyone or any philosophy that denies hope to people is destructive. It adds nothing to but takes away from the human endeavour to find meaning. Witso is right in this respect, that the Church, e.g. offered hope, subject to certain conditions.

  12. gobrov Says:

    > 1) Excellence – This death is astoundingly mediocre and run of the mill in its execution.

    Disagree. I would title this nominee “Killed by Apocalypse”.

    > 2) I cannot remember, but you may insert Maturity

    Oh, c’mon. This overgrown 22-years old believer matured just after he had arrived at the Stunning Truth: there is no Santa. Parents didn’t told him in time. Alas.

  13. Scott Thong Says:

    I disagree with 1) Excellence, as his method of death was a run-of-the-mill shooting of self.

  14. gobrov Says:

    There is nothing about the method in the criteria. It says “astoundingly stupid judgment”. This is the very thing.

  15. Scott Thong Says:

    I stand by my definition – there are simply too many run of the mill suicides to include if the disclaimer The candidate’s foolishness must be unique and sensational, perhaps because the award is intended to be funny is not adhered to.

  16. Curious Says:

    Why is this story even being given any credence? It is preposterous to hold books and ideas responsible for someone’s death, unless they fall on his head. If a person’s hold on life is this tenuous, the parent should have noticed that mental problems existed long before tragedy occurred.

  17. wits0 Says:

    A person’s hold on life is tenuous because his mind itself is not strong ; parents often don’t notice. It’s rather far fetched to pass the blame elsewhere simply because that’s convenient. A suicide concluded that live isn’t worth living and sought to make an external statement of that…according to his own self-centered understanding and inability to handle contradicting ideology.

  18. Mike Caton Says:

    Hi Scott,

    I also have a blog that has in common some of your central themes –
    Islamic extremism and the tribal passions that it inflames for political gain (as you see with Malaysian Muslims worrying about Palestine), and the expansion of Chinese autocracy (I went to protest the Torch when it came through my city, for one thing). I’m also a strong atheist. I’m interested in your take on that. Am I just confused? Would you rather not have me on your side in defending free markets because of that?

  19. Scott Thong Says:

    Far from it, Mike! In this world, seldom will we come across another individual with exactly the same worldview.

    We have some things in common – opposition to jihad and economic policy. We have some things that differ – religion/philosophy.

    We can argue and disagree on the latter, buy I believe we can work together on the former and I welcome the input.

    Commentor wits0, for example, leans towards Buddhism and Eastern philosophies, which are at odds with my JudeoChristian beliefs. Technically, he is also an atheist. But we find common ground on most other subjects and avoid clashing on the topics we disagree on.

    As I like to quote as an example: In World War II, two diametrically opposed powers – the majority Christian capitalist Americans and the majority atheist socialist Soviet Russians – worked together as allies to defeat the immediate threat of Nazi Germany. After that, they went for each others’ throats, but it was fun while it lasted…

    Today, another aggressive, cultic, self-assured, self-superior and extremist movement is threatening both Christian and atheist (and Buddhist, and Hindu, and pagan, and insufficiently extremist…) alike. I say we once again deal with the immediate threat before going back to our comparatively civilized debates.

  20. Mike Caton Says:

    Scott – I assume your aggressive, cultic, self-assured, self-superior extremist movement is Islam. To the degree it’s infiltrated governments (as its Scriptures dictate) I couldn’t agree more. To some degree otherwise secular-minded Americans hesitate when they hear American politicians talking tough about Islam because unfortunately it’s all-too-often with the subtext of “They should be Christians instead”. Christopher Hitchens made the interesting observation that two of American conservatism’s intellectual bulldogs, William Kristol and Ayn Rand, are themselves both atheists. The point is one’s government allowing individual citizens the freedom to choose what to believe, or not believe.

    That’s why, given the choice, I’d rather live in technically Anglican England (where the weather is awful but I’m left alone) to officially atheist China (where the weather is in some places good but humid, but where CCP gives out an atheist prize, which is creepy). Even better than both is a country that takes no position on religious belief or lack thereof, like the one I live in (the US; thank you Tom Jefferson).

    That said, you’re absolutely correct that when someone resorts to force and violence, dealing with that is the priority. Discourse is the preferred avenue for change in a civilized setting, but there’s no discourse with murderers. I prefer a debate with Christian socialists to a war with other capitalist atheists any day.

  21. Scott Thong Says:

    I will never self-indict myself for Internal Securiuty Act detention by referring to said movement by name :p

    If anyone asks, I’ll claim I’m bashing Scientology lol!

    Have you read up on Merry Ole England lately? Seems that it’s apparently kosher… I mean, halal to chant death to Tony Blair over loudspeakers, chase plods down the street chanting ‘Allahu Akhbar’, describe on national telly how nonMuslims can be raped and killed, and make everyone in the House of Parliament eat halal food.

    However, wearing a crucifix and celebrating Christmas and St. George are militant and offensive. Go figure.

  22. wits0 Says:

    Related:

    FAIR IS FOUL, AND FOUL IS FAIR
    What do you think of the so-called Fairness Doctrine?
    http://forums.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=318&pollShowResults=1

    —-
    Perversion in values begins with inverted semantics.

    The atheists threw away the baby with the bath water like Darwin did. To rebel against the authoritarian Church, Darwin worsened the situation wrt to the human moral compass.

    Americans are gettng progressively lost as they deny their Judeo Christian tradition, and yet pamper the islamo cult like idiotarian multi-cult Britain. What “multi-cult”? It’s largely a euphemism for ‘kow tow’ in fallen Britain for the islamo factor. Thanks to the loony leftist liberals and their progressive decadence! They’re far worse than the Archie Bunkers!

  23. betterthangod Says:

    You overlook the obvious. Perhaps he committed suicide as he had now realised that everything he had once held dear was now exposed by a little education as blatantly false and he couldn’t bring himself to continue living in a world full of deluded fools.

  24. Scott Thong Says:

    And he couldn’t step into that oh-so-enlightened world of happy and contented atheism either?

  25. Pete Says:

    I lost my faith studying Theology. It does cause emotional problems because it removes the perception of being protected. Makes you feel in danger also because you know that people will reject you. Makes you depressed because you cannot be honest about what you really believe. Even if you trust some with your ideas, you always know that most wil reject you. Some so-called christians will even be physically violent. Alienation from society is a very important reason for suicide.
    Christians beware. Show love to atheists. Most are not willful or evil. They just lost that trust that Someone out their is looking out for them. A lot are mourning that loss. Others are trying to deal with having to lie about their beliefs by trying to convince others not to belief so as to be accepted.

  26. Alejandro Says:

    This is indeed a sad story, and I never enjoy hearing about anyone taking their own life, but it’s also a bit myopic to blame college professors or Richard Dawkins’ book for his suicide… after all, this young man must have had other things contributing to his depression and eventual suicide.

    One mustn’t forget about the ravages of war upon the souls of men, which causes many men and perhaps even women now, to commit suicide.

    Dawkins’ book and this man’s atheist professors may have been the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back, but it is simply ludicrous to imply that they were the only reason for suicide.

    Being in a war is terrible and awful; it makes one lose faith in humanity, in the world, in life. It claws at your conscience, especially–even in self-defense–you inevitably kill another human being.

    Unlike his father, who was a chaplain and therefore never actually had to murder people, Jesse was a soldier proper. As a result, he must have been forced to struggle with his faith while killing other humans, even if they were not Christian.

    War is war, murder is murder, and ultimately, that is probably the most likely cause of poor Jesse’s depression, apathy, and suicide. It was Dawkins’ book that put the icing on the cake.

  27. Jack Wayne Chappell Says:

    Dawkins is nothing more than a pathetic mouthpiece for the Social international. For proof of his quackery, look at his video ‘Awakening in the Universe part 4.’

    In this visdeo he displays an artist’s rendition of Australopithecus Africanus as a WHITE humanoid ape.

    Australopithecus Africanus was blacker than the ace of spades, and no white man ever evolved on the African continent.

    His theroies are so fraudulent from an anthropological standpoint that it’s ridiculous. Not a speech of his goes by in which he does not put in a plug for Marxism, for gay rights, and for abortion.

    Dawkins is a high priest of an occult philosophy, and the evidence of this is plain in all of his maniacal presentations.

    However, one cannot place the blame for a suicide on Dawkins. If a mother tells a child about the ‘Easter Bunny’ and then the child later discovers that there is no Easter Bunny, does the child then commit suicide by acquiring the truth, and if so, is this the mother’s fault?

    That this young man decieved himself by believing a preposterous lie, and that he committed suicide as a result of that lie, is not at issue. Lies are around us everywhere. It is our own responsibility to sort out the truth from the fiction.

    For more information proving Dawkins to be the environmental quack that he obviously is, feel free to contact me in person.

    jackwaynechappell@hotmail.com

  28. Mad Bluebird Says:

    RICHARD DAWKINS is a liberal atheistsic evolutionists numb-skull too stupid to realize he is stupid

  29. Ron Says:

    From his blog:

    “So Sad… she said this is the closest you’ll will ever get to me. I can’t be more hurt. She said that tonight when we were far apart. I recorded it on my phone so that I wouldn’t forget.”

    “I drank too much tonight. I can barely keep my eyes open. Being on a water bed when drunk is a bad idea. Being drunk is a bad idea. But I must write down this to remember what it is like. It is a bad idea, don’t ever do this again. Don’t trust anyone else. You yourself is telling you that this is the wrong path. Please learn from this mistake.”

    “MY BAC is so bad, but don’t worry I’m not driving anywhere tonight, I just need to leave myself a note that this is wrong and that I should not do this again. I am not proof reading, in fact my eyes are shut as I type. Please forgive me. I am wearing headphones, but do not realize it. That is how much I drank tonight.”

    “Listiing to the most depressing song I can think off. Because I am in so much pain. As my eyes tear up I will learn my leson. I am not spell checking this, I know I am wrong on so many levlels. Don’t drink and blog. I want to cry so bad, just take the pain away.. Let me die. I don’t want to live anymore. It hurts too much. I hate life. Just take the pain today.”

    “She said this is the closest you will ever get. I wasn’t close at all at the time. So I now know where I stand. It is not even close. This is what I wanted. Yet it is what I feared.”

    “Please if you want to have mercy on me, kill me. I don’t need to live anymore. Take the pain away.”

    “All I wanted was to take the pain away. Let it out. Let me cry. Its okay, all I wanted was a little bit to take the pain away.”

    “I’m so hurt. Don’t drink anymore, just go home and let it go. Time is going by so fast, it is strange. Don’t drink and blog. I want to sober up online. I just want a little bit a love to take the pain away, only fools rush in.”

    http://www.tagworld.com/profile/01028880101882810000101882810/Content/Post/MyPosts2.aspx

  30. Nasaei Ahmad Says:

    It is unfortunate that we hear sometimes people commit suicide for reasons only known to themselves. We can’t imagine how people lost their hope.. reasoning, and consciences, sober. I don’t have the data. Are Christians and Muslims among the lowest rate in suicides, and Hindu, Shinto Buddhists (Japan) or atheists ?

  31. Ron Says:

    You’re absolutely right, Nasaei. We’ll never know why Mr. Kilgore chose to end his life. His two August blog entries suggest unrequited love may have been a major factor.

  32. simonthongwh Says:

    APE TO MAN: LUCY, AUSTRALOPETHICUS AFARENSIS (or FROM MAN TO APE)

  33. Ron Says:

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