Anthony Rogers on Genesis 4:1 – “I have gotten a man, YHWH”

Interesting observation by Anthony Rogers.

Gen 3:16 is usually rendered ‘your desire shall be for your husband and he will rule over you’ but the Hebrew is literally ‘your man’, and he feels the context is Gen 3:15 which is about the future Messiah – hence v16 should be interpreted as ‘although you will have painful childbirth, it will bring forth your man (the one who will crush the serpent’s head) whom you desire and will rule over you’.

This therefore explains why Gen 4:1 has Eve say literally, “I have gotten a man, YHWH” – she thought Gen 3:15-16 were fulfilled immediately.

From 2:31:18 or so:

I also know of two Targums related to this, I probably learned of these from Anthony Rogers too awhiles back:

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between the seed of thy son, and the seed of her sons; and it shall be when the sons of the woman keep the commandments of the law, they will be prepared to smite thee upon thy head; but when they forsake the commandments of the law, thou wilt be ready to wound them in their heel. Nevertheless for them there shall be a medicine, but for thee there will be no medicine; and they shall make a remedy for the heel in the days of the King Meshiha – Genesis 3:15, Targum of Pseudo Jonathan (Section III), 150s-250s BC

And Adam knew Hava his wife, who had desired the Angel; and she conceived, and bare Kain; and she said, I have acquired a man, the Angel of the Lord. – Genesis 4:1, Targum of Pseudo-Jonathan (Section III), 150s-250s BC

The above are mentioned in my old video on the subject:

CALVINISM IS THE BOOK OF JOB WITHOUT THE LAST CHAPTER

God unconditionally Reprobates most people for His own glory and pleasure? Even the seemingly Elect might actually just have Evanescent Grace? His black is our white, who are we to try and comprehend what counts as ‘good’ to an Omnipotent Fiend (CS Lewis, The Problem of Pain, p33)? God is more interested in self-glorification than agape as per James White tweeting back about God getting close to us at Christmas? Praise and glorify God even as He tortures and then damns you because, well, He’s God and whoareyouoman?

Looks like the Broflovskis might be accidental Calvinists!

WHAT DO CONSPIRACISTS SAY TO EXPLAIN A DIVINE HOLY SPIRIT?

Question: I can see the reasoning that conspiracists use to say “Jesus was never considered divine until the Romans manipulated/coopted the Christian movement and made Jesus into God”.

But what rationale do they give for adding the Holy Spirit in to make a Trinity? It doesn’t seem necessary and if it was back-edited into the New Testament, not nearly as much effort seems to have been made to prooftext for the Holy Spirit’s divinity.

Feels like a major weakness and oversight of the conspiracy theory to me.

REVELATION 9 – SPIRITS OF DEAD NEPHILIM INHABITING ROBOT BODIES?

So Dr Heiser has said that his own view leans towards Revelation 9 being about demons = spirits of the dead Nephilim being released from hell.

My own view leaned towards the locusts depicting combat helicopters, but now I think it’s drones. Rotors like hair, noise like galloping horses, shining metal breastplates, stinging like scorpions, coming out from the abyss (deep sea in Hebrew thought) and led by an angel whose name means Destroyer (the class of seafaring vessel usually used for weird weapons like this). The US Navy even names their system Project LOCUST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW77hVqux10

But what if, to use a favourite Dr Heiser turn of the phrase: “So is it demons, or is it drones? …And the answer is, yes.”

Demons are disembodied spirits, they look for hosts to inhabit. Historically the hosts have always been humans or animals (e.g the herd of pigs at Gerasene).

But what if human techonology progresses to the point where computer hardware and/or software is advanced enough to replicate how a brain functions? Would a demon then be able to possess such a machine well enough to control the mechanical body? Mind-machine interface is already in the works, not just far-future science fiction.

So maybe Revelation 9 really is about a horde of evil spirits, but they’re possessins a swarm of advanced drones. Who needs AI or a remote human operator? That would also explain how UFOs can make sudden turns or acceleration that would kill any organic pilots with the G-forces.

(And no, I’m not proposing anything original. The Necrons in Warhammer 40k are basically the undead, but with their souls inhabiting robot bodies instead of organic corpses.)

See also First Quarter 2011: Signs of the End Times Checklist

GOD LENDING PEOPLE MIDDLE KNOWLEDGE AT THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT?

Just some stray thoughts related to concepts in Molinism.

What if unbelievers challenge God at the final judgment, “God, you did not give me sufficient reason to believe / God, you did not order my DNA and life events in such a way that I would believe”…

And then God temporarily grants them Middle Knowledge of themselves and all their infinite possible existences, proving to them that no matter what He did or how He made them, they would still have rejected Him? Like some sort of definitive proof of their own self-caused Transworld Damnation.

Thereby proving God to be faultless in condemning them. Aaaaand maybe they still would freely reject God and lock the doors of hell from the inside, as CS Lewis/Eastern Orthodox put it.