Understanding of the Bible: Yourself vs Christians

Here’s a quick four step plan to address any doubts or polemics preliminarily:

1) What is your understanding or interpretation of a certain passage in the Bible?

2) By contrast, what is the standard, mainstream Christian understanding, interpretation and application of that same passage?

3) Why do Christians hold to the above in 2)? It could involve context, cross comparison against other relevant parts of the Bible, over-riding or fulfilment, and 2000 years of studying, debating and really living the conclusions.

4) Taking note of 3) above, does this satisfy your original issue in 1)?

Things That Are Highly Unlikely (Atheism vs Christianity) – Me on Twitter

Been tweeting these lately:

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#Unlikelythings Drug addict reforming his ways cos no evidence of loving God #atheism vs #Christianity

#Unlikelythings Convict stricken with remorse thx to discovering secular humanism #atheism vs #Christianity

#Unlikelythings Suicidal person finds new meaning in life after reading Richard Dawkins #atheism vs #Christianity

#Unlikelythings Ppl give up comfortable life, serve charity due to rationalism and rejection of the supernatural #atheism vs #Christianity

#Unlikelythings Prisoners of war forgive brutal oppressors because of NeoDarwinism #atheism vs #Christianity

#Unlikelythings Ppl sharing and declaring how much *ERROR, DOES NOT EXIST* loves you #atheism vs #Christianity

#Unlikelythings Charities and humanitarian movements named after much-loved parables of atheist thought #atheism vs #Christianity

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Inspired by these snarkily-titled posts in the same gist as follow:

• Devoted Atheist Mom and Writings of Voltaire Reform Drug User & Dealer Convict

• Once Again, Total and Utter Absence of A Loving Supernatural Creator Transforms Drug Addict Into Charitable Role Model

• Indisputably Proven Fact That God Does Not Exist Rehabilitates Hardcore Drug Addicts Into Model Citizens

Constrasted against

• >How Atheism Touches Lives – Stirring Real Life Examples

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(I’ll preemptively add: Come and get it, Ron!)

See also What Door to Door Evangelists for Atheism Would Really Be Like.

North Korea vs South Korea: We Require More Minerals

Via Comixed, from The Oatmeal. So sadly true…

Once again, I thank the selfless Americans who allowed me to be a middle class capitalist pig, wasting time on teh Internets, instead of having to be a dirt farming tourist leech.

So, who wants to espouse Communism/Socialism over capitalism?

PS. So why is it murderous commies were also always atheists?

Obama Has Beliefs Far More UnChristian Than the Mormon Romney Does – Me on Twitter

Now I’m a Christian, and don’t agree with the beliefs of the Latter Day Saints (aka Mormonism).

But to those Christians who are recoiling at the thought of Mitt Romney being potentially the first Mormon President… Where were you when Obama was sworn into office with his skewed, godless, way-out, even-more-at-odds-with-mainstream-Christianity-than-Mormonism-is beliefs and narcisstic, hubristic teachings?

It’s not like Obama is anything much of a real Christian, as these tweets snarkily point out. (And he is just the logical next progression in the long line of Self Worshiping Liberals, following Slick Willie and Jimmi the Dhimmi.)

If Romney and Mormons in general ever do the following, then maybe “We can’t have a nonChristian President!” would have more basis…

(Tweets are in reverse order.)

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I’m #Christian & disagree w #Mormon belief. But see #notmormonbeliefs if you fear a nonChristian Pres #Romney

Many crude violent thugs & murderers among 493+ examples think like me and support me! http://alturl.com/4d46e #notmormonbeliefs #romney

Convicted criminals think the same way as I do! http://alturl.com/c3pdk #notmormonbeliefs #romney

North Korea’s tyrannical, atheist, communist leaders like me! http://alturl.com/hcoyv #notmormonbeliefs #romney

I pal around with terrorists pt 2 http://alturl.com/9vppa http://alturl.com/wyohs http://alturl.com/xxgjs #notmormonbeliefs #romney

I pal around with terrorists http://alturl.com/54mak http://alturl.com/tiskc http://alturl.com/9rg5a #notmormonbeliefs #romney

Babies are punishment #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/7awnr

Babies born alive from failed abortions should be left to die utility room #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/bbfsy

Skip the National Day of Prayer – AGAIN #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Heck, my supporters consider me Jesus! #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

My supporters consider me the Second Coming of Jesus #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

My supporters want new chapters added to the Bible to commemorate me #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Take off shoes, prosrtate self at Muslim prayers #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

My supporters sue Christian publishers cos Bible versions refer to homosexuality as a sin #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Join Muslim prayers at the White House #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Skip church for over 2 years since winning the election #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Carry a statue of Hanuman the Hindu monkey god in pocket #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Leave out the phrase ‘endowed by their Creator’ from US Declaration of Independence – 3 times #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Consider America one of the largest Muslim nations #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

3 times deny that America Christian nation – but could consider one of largest Muslim nations #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

No longer just Christian nation; also a Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, nonbelievers nation #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Do not consider America a Christian nation #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs
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The Bible says slavery is okay! Eating shellfish is an abomination. #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Jesus Sermon on the Mount so radical, doubtful Defense Department would survive application #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

True Christian is @ALSHARPTON_REV and @DoctorDobson of @FocusFamily is not #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Abraham & Isaac? Call police, wrestle him down, take Isaac away, charge Abe w child abuse #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

To base policy on uncompromising commitments to God’s edicts is a dangerous thing #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

My supporters consider me the Messiah, the New Jesus #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/6rbpt
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I’m like Moses and Jesus #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Comprehensive sex education – for kindergarteners! #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Support homosexuality #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Memorial service – use Native American ritual and make no reference to the Christian God #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Skip Christmas service #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Do not want Nativity scene at White House for Christmas #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Omit any mention of God from thanksgiving message #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Give an Easter message – aimed at all faiths #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Leave Easter sermon 30 minutes early #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Give statements 4 Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, Eid-ul-Adha, Nowruz. Skip Easter statement 2011 #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Skip the National Day of Prayer. Give a 5 minutes Ramadan greeting. #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

The Muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful sound in the world #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Study the Quran. Recite the azan. #notmormonbeliefs #romney http://alturl.com/5nwzs

Destroy Israel and push all the Jews into the sea #notmormonbeliefs #romney

America started the AIDS virus to keep Third World in grinding poverty #notmormonbeliefs #romney

Go #Hamas rah rah rah !!! #notmormonbeliefs #romney

We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty #notmormonbeliefs #romney

America invented the HIV virus as genocide against Blacks #notmormonbeliefs #romney

America started the AIDS virus #notmormonbeliefs #romney

The government lied about inventing HIV virus as means of genocide against people of color. #notmormonbeliefs #romney

America is still the No. 1 killer in the world #notmormonbeliefs #romney

O yes I say it plain, America never was America to me #notmormonbeliefs #romney

Our enemies may have justifiable reasons to be suspicious of the good faith of the United States #notmormonbeliefs #romney

We have committed more war crimes almost than any other nation in the world #notmormonbeliefs #romney

All of America’s wealth today could not adequately compensate blacks for centuries of exploitation and humiliation #notmormonbeliefs #romney

The question is not whether we will be extremist but what kind of extremist will we be #notmormonbeliefs #romney

Blacks have committed crimes but they are derivative crimes, born of the greater crimes of the white society #notmormonbeliefs #romney

A riot is the language of the unheard #notmormonbeliefs #romney

It is true that blacks do hate whites, but black hatred is not racism #notmormonbeliefs #romney

We have had too much of white love #notmormonbeliefs #romney

There is no use for a God who loves white oppressors the same as oppressed blacks #notmormonbeliefs #romney

Jesus Christ was a poor Black man oppressed by White Europeans #notmormonbeliefs #romney

Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for #notmormonbeliefs #romney

9/11 is America’s chickens coming home to roost #notmormonbeliefs #romney

If God is not for us & against whites, then we’d best kill him #notmormonbeliefs #romney

AIDS was created by the US for black geneocide #notmormonbeliefs #romney

Unless God participate in holy activity of black people destroy oppressors by any means disposal, reject his love #notmormonbeliefs #romney

We need the divine love as expressed in Black Power #notmormonbeliefs #romney

Refuse to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community #notmormonbeliefs #romney

Kill Gods who do not belong to the black community #notmormonbeliefs #romney

If God is not for us and against white people then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. #notmormonbeliefs #romney

Accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy #notmormonbeliefs #romney

Not God bless America, no no no, God d*mn America! #notmormonbeliefs #romney

20 years in a racist, America-hating church #notmormonbeliefs #romney

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If you didn’t get the latter half (the ones without the links), it’s referring to Obama’s 20 years of absorbing the rantings of this guy.

And I’m also starting to warm to Romney in general…

“Is it easier to make ends meet? Is it easier to sell your home or buy a new one?”

“Have you saved what you needed for retirement? Are you making more AT your job? Do you have a better chance to get a better job? Are you paying less at the pump?”

“It’s still about the economy. And we’re not stupid.”

“You might have heard that I was successful in business. And that rumor is true. … After 25 years, I know how to lead us out of this stagnant Obama economy and into a job-creating recovery.”

Whole Bunch of JB Serious Crime Anecdotes and Links by The Best Of Both Worlds

From The Best Of Both Worlds via simonthongwh:

Thursday, January 6, 2011
Towards Lesser Crime In JB

Crime in Johor Bahru have reach new highs in my personal view.Especially house break ins, snatch thieves and robberies. They, the criminals are now very bold and very well equipped. They commit crimes even at broad daylight!It is one thing to lose valuables but the emotional trauma? Wouldn’t one fear for one’s belongings, love ones or one’s own well being? I have known cases around me and myself included have fall victims of these crimes.But where does one go to next? How does one help to inform the right people to take steps to help prevent crime and not wait till its too late. People seem to turn away or brush off matters like these until it happens to someone close or some important person. It is truly very very sad.. Crime prevention is not political, its not racial. There is no monetary gains nor is it meant to gain popularity it is about (a)the community’s welfare.There are poorly or not lighted back lanes, deserted or abandon houses there must be steps taken to monitor these areas or upgrade them.Patrols during the day, patrols into back lanes whether they are pitch dark or lighted. There is no blaming of anybody or departments or what have you. Its just making/taking steps to prevent crime. A very simple issue.I personally don’t even know if writing in this blog will help me establish or get the message out to the right people but least I have tried.

This is a blog written by Rencetan on May 1 2009, in The Star daily.

The recent parang incident in Johor prompted me to blog again about crime in JB.
A gang of three armed robbers chopped off the left arm of 28-year old Wang Kai Yin, a car repairman in Kulai, Johor Bahru because they only managed to get RM300 cash and a mobile phone from the victim.
Out of anger, one of the three men on two motorcycles cut off his arm when told he had no more money after surrendering his wallet.
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Earlier, I had blogged about robbers in Taman Majidee using 19-year old Cheng Jun Wei as human shield when pursued by a security guard.
She suffered head injuries and subsequently passed away two days later.

A month later, a man allegedly lost more than RM5,000 to a snatch thief at a money changer shop in Taman Majidee.
To aggravate matter, he was shot twice at his waist during an argument with a security guard.
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In January last year, at The Store in Taman Sentosa JB, 31-year old Singaporean Ms Joanne Tan, was dragged about 10 metre for refusing to let go her handbag.
She was slashed on the left arm.
After two snatch thieves gave up on her, a car ran over her feet.

For readers information, all these place are less than ten-minute ride from where I stay.
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Last May, the police target to reduce Johor crime index by at least 30% in 2010, especially in the Iskandar area, JB South.

And in the first nine months of 2010, police crime index was down by 24.17% or 5,369 cases.

A year earlier, there were 22,211 cases which included property and violent crimes.

I sincerely hope that the 30% target had thus been achieved.

Two weeks before the announcement was made, even JB South OCPD Asst Comm Zainuddin Yaakob, home alone, had a dawn shock when he was tied up and robbed at knife point in his own house a year earlier.

The suspects, all believed to be Indonesians ransacked his home before fleeing.

Two weeks later, Huzaimah Yahya, wife of Education Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yasin political secretary, Syahrin Md Jamaluddin, was tied up during robbery, car stolen, house ransacked, fridge, pots and pans raided in Kampung Sinaran Baru, Skudai around 2am.

This is the second break-in for them after two years.

Crimes in Nusajaya, Upscale Housing Area Near JB

Via simonthongwh:

Nusajaya folks fear increasing crime rates
Posted on December 3, 2011 by Eric Ku

Residents of Nusajaya vicinity in Johor Bahru feel unsettled due to the increase in buglary cases in the area.

Recent protests in Taman Pulai Utama concerning the escalating crime rates initiated a dialogue session called “Sesi Dialog Polis Dengan Penduduk” recently to discuss measures which need to be taken by the police with cooperation from the residents to battle the issue at hand.

According to the Deputy CPO of IPD Nusajaya, Tuan Razak, this is the second dialogue held in Nusajaya to answer the public’s enquiry and to offer consolation to the jittery residents.

As per police report and record, Taman Pulai Utama had a total of 70 case this year, comprising 41 lost motorcycles, 7 missing cars, 19 burglary and 3 rape cases. To date, no one has been nabbed for the cases.

The public openly displayed their frustration as many Nusajaya cases have been redirected to other police stations surmounting to a waste of time and effort.

Ex-police office, James Barran, voiced his frustration at the lackadaisical attitude of the police force.

“20 years ago, when I was a Police officer in Batu Pahat, the police received reports regardless of territory, but now I personally encountered a case where I was asked to lodge a Police report in Kangkar Pulai which is 5 km further from the one at Taman Universiti which is just 1 km away,” said the exasperated ex-police officer.

Barran was supported by one of the local residents, Ong Ju Seng, who faced similar problems and had to travel a few times to give investigation statements in a rural police stations, when there was a police station close to home.

Tuan Razak, in his reply mentioned that public can make police report in any of the police station, and that there is no excuse for policemen to channel cases to other stations. Disciplinary actions will take against officers who refuse to comply. He explained that there is a shortage of investigative officers and therefore some lapse in time may occur before crime cases receive due investigation.

The resident in Taman Pulai Utama requested more police patrol in the area, regardless of having security personals in the guarded and gated area. They request that the police be more efficient when recovering evidence and to be efficient when dealing with suspects in order to deter repetitive crime.

A total of 200 people attended the dialogue. Also present was the Ahli Majlis Perbandaran Johor Bahru Tengah ( MPJBT), Jason Teo and community policing Bukit Indah, Yap Kwi Juan and legal advisor Lau Kok Guan.

JB Gang Targets Gold of Newlyweds

Via simonthongwh:

New Straits Times
Gang targets newly-weds for their gold
2011/10/01
By Ben Tan
bentan@nst.com.my

JOHOR BARU:Of late, a gang of burglars has been targeting the homes of newly-wed Chinese couples here.

They would break into the houses for cash and gold jewellery when the families were at their wedding banquets. The gang, which targets homes in urban residential areas, was able steal thousands of ringgit in cash and jewellery in just 15 minutes.

The houses of newly-weds or that of their parents normally contain ang pow given by family members and guests during the traditional tea ceremony held before the banquet.
Most of the Chinese here, who are Teochew or Hokkien, keep gold jewellery, called si tiam kim (four points of gold in Teochew), to be given as gifts to the bride in their homes during the wedding. The si tiam kim consists of a pair of earrings, a necklace, a bracelet and a ring.

Sources told the New Sunday Times that most weddings took place during the weekend and there was no time to bank in the cash or place the jewellery in a safe deposit box.

“Another glaring giveaway to the burglars is the red sash and Chinese characters emblazoned on the main door of the bride’s home in preparation for the tea ceremony.
“Come the wedding dinner on Saturday or Sunday, the whole family will go to the restaurant or hotel by 4pm,” said a source.

Initial investigations revealed that the burglars, believed to be working in groups of two or three, would make their rounds in residential areas before the weekend.

Once they targeted a home, a visual inspection of its surroundings was made for alarm systems and the proximity of the break-in points to the immediate neighbour’s house.
The source said the burglars preferred corner-lot houses where the break-in and exit was easier through the roof. The gang would strike between 6pm and 8pm.

“They would enter the newly-weds’ bedroom, where the ang pow and gold jewellery were usually kept.

“Most of the time, the burglars would leave the other parts of the house untouched. They were only interested in the ang pow and si tiam kim,” added the source.

Johor police chief Datuk Mokhtar Shariff said police were aware of the cases and had been monitoring the situation.

Johor Police on Crimes Encountered by Singaporeans

Via simonthongwh:

Saturday, October 15, 2011
TODAYonline

Johor police: We are in full control

by Teo Xuanwei
04:46 AM Oct 15, 2011

JOHOR BARU – Three weeks after a Malaysian politician reportedly made negative remarks about the crime situation in Johor, the police chief of the southern state has stepped out to stress that his department is in “full control”.

At a rare press conference yesterday morning on Johor’s crime rates attended by some 40 journalists – half of whom were from Singapore – Deputy Commissioner of Police Mokhtar Shariff spent almost 45 minutes presenting various statistics, such as a 25-per-cent drop in the total number of cases last year, as well as a steady decline in crimes against Singaporeans.

He said: “I must assure and reiterate and stress that the police is in full control of the crime situation in Johor. This, I believe, should eliminate all unfounded concerns and allegations on safety and security issues.”

Bernama news agency reported on Sept 23 that Penang Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng had made comments to the foreign media, which reportedly implied that Singaporeans were more likely to be kidnapped in Johor than in Penang.

Mr Lim, the secretary-general of the opposition Democratic Action Party, subsequently apologised to the Sultan of Johor but maintained that his words were “misrepresented”.

Yesterday, Mr Mokhtar noted that there have been only two reported abductions of Singaporeans since 2008.

And out of the 14.1 million trips Singaporeans made across the Causeway last year, just 320 of those trips, or 0.002 per cent, met with crime in Johor. This ratio would be “deemed natural”, in his words, in any part of the world.

“The crimes were generally common in nature and not specifically aimed at Singaporeans. (The criminals) have an opportunity, they strike. They don’t look at race, religion, or nationality,” Mr Mokhtar said.

There were 386 cases of violent and property crimes committed against Singaporeans in 2008.

This rose to 413 in 2009, but plunged to 320 last year. For the first eight months of this year, there have been 230 such cases.

He stressed that the Johor police will strive not to allow even one Singaporean being hit by criminal activities, citing how 25 police posts, otherwise referred to as beat bases, have been set up in various areas in the city. There are also plans to boost the 8,300-strong force by another 800 officers to increase police presence.

Mr Mokhtar also revealed that street crimes – snatch thefts are a particular menace – have also plunged by 45 per cent in total from January to September this year. He added that 279 snatch thieves, which he labelled “monsters and parasites”, have been nabbed this year.

Even as the statistics point to an improving security situation, concerns over safety continue to linger among Singaporeans, due to sensational crimes making the headlines periodically.

In January, for instance, a millionaire businessman’s mistress, daughter and maid were kidnapped, allegedly by two Malaysians, outside a mini-mart in Johor Baru’s Permas Jaya township.

They were released less than two weeks later after the businessman paid a S$9 million ransom.

Singaporeans’ willingness to visit Johor have also been marred by other recent incidents.

A new fingerprinting immigration system in June caused massive traffic snares at the checkpoints – two Malaysian business associations reported a 30- to 50-per-cent fall in business.

There was also a controversy over two Singapore women allegedly made to do nude squats after they were arrested at the Malaysian checkpoint for allegedly entering the country without going through immigration checks.

The Star
Published: Friday October 14, 2011 MYT 4:26:00 PM

Johor police brief S’pore media over security

JOHOR BARU: Only 320 crimes involving Singaporeans were recorded in Johor last year. Most involved missing cars and motorcycles.

Since 2008, only two cases of abduction of Singaporeans were reported. About 14 million Singaporeans enter Johor for holidays, business and other matters annually.

Thus, any assumption that people fear to come to Johor is utterly baseless, said state police chief Datuk Mokhtar Shariff at a briefing of local and Singapore journalists of the crime situation.

He added that the negative perception of Johor’s crime rate had to be countered through frequent briefing sessions for media members from Singapore.

He said criminals do not select their victims based on nationality, race or religion but commit crime as and when they get the opportunity.

“We have put in place various strategies including increasing police intelligence, working with community policing groups, increasing raids, creating police beats and utilising the latest technology to clamp down on crime here,” he said.

He was responding to a remark made by Penang Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng about Johor’s security.

MySinchew.com

Police to brief public regularly on security in Johor

2011-10-14 15:37

JOHOR BAHRU, Oct 14 (Bernama) — Johor police today briefed the media from Johor and Singapore on security in the Iskandar Malaysia development corridor, and promised more regular briefings for the media and foreign investors to dismiss any negative perception that Johor was an unsafe state.

Johor police chief Datuk Mohd Mokhtar Mohd Shariff said there was no basis to regard Johor as an unsafe state and gave the assurance that the police would redouble efforts to fight crime.

He said only two cases of abduction involving Singaporeans were recorded since 2008.

“Only 320 crimes involving Singaporeans were recorded last year, most of them associated with missing cars and motorcycles” he said, adding that the number was small compared to the 14 million arrivals in the state.

“Any assumption that people fear to come to Johor is utterly baseless,” he told reporters after the briefing.

Mohd Mokhtar said criminals do not select their victims based on nationality, race or religion but commit crime as and when they get the opportunity.

It is hoped that the briefings will provide a clear picture of the security situation in the state and instill confidence in potential tourists and foreign investors, he said.

He said the government had allocated RM500 million to step up security in Iskandar Malaysia through the setting up of several district police headquarters, increasing the number of patrol units and installing more closed circuit television cameras for monitoring.

Compare against this via simonthongwh:

A cousin, a Singaporean, came to visit his friend in JB and became a victim in JB’s SAFE STREETS!

I read your post in the face book about robbery in Ipoh Garden East on Lunar New Year Eve. I am not sure whether you know I was also a victim of robbery in Malaysia?

On 11th August last year (2011), I went to visit my friend and his family in Johor Bahru with my family members. We were robbed and attacked in front of my friend’s house at 11.30am. I shouted but no one dared to help except my friend. Because of my shouting, I was slashed with a parang on my right thigh just above the knee and my wife’s handbag was taken. I couldn’t walk for few months. Even now I am still limping and undergoing physiotherapy, (after more than 5 months).

Tell all your friends to keep cool if met with robbery. Just hand over their valuables quietly. DON”T SHOUT. No one dares to help. If they shout, they may be stabbed or slashed, which will be worse.

The Police are useless!!! Yes, you are right. They will just make statements, that it is very safe, crime rate is low and dropping, etc, etc!!!

About one month after my case, the Police Chief in Johor also said that Johor is very safe, to encourage Singaporeans to visit and shop in Johor Bahru! He said that in 2010 there were ONLY 320 cases of crime (or 0.002 % of total visits) involving Singaporeans.

He couldn’t even see the facts behind his own figures! It actually means that nearly every day a visiting Singaporean was robbed and if Malaysians were included, the figure would be very much higher!

He seems to be happy with the 0.002% figure. But for visitors and Malaysians, we would certainly expect a much better figure.

Although my wife made a police report that evening (I was in hospital undergoing emergency surgery), there was completely no news from the Police of our case till now.

JB Police + Army Patrols

Via simonthongwh:

New Straits Times

Police, soldiers start joint patrols in Johor Baru tomorrow

2011/10/13

STARTING tomorrow, police will hold joint patrols with the Malaysian Armed Forces in three main areas of Johor Baru city centre.

This initiative is part of the National Blue Ocean Strategy (NBOS) which involves the police and military cooperating, sharing facilities and having joint patrols.

State police chief Datuk Mokhtar Shariff said the cooperative effort between the agencies would start off with patrols to beef-up police presence in the Setia Indah, Pelangi Indah and Johor Jaya police stations.
“Setia Indah and Pelangi Indah will be under the Johor Baru South police district, while the Johor Jaya stations will be under the Seri Alam police district.

“The joint patrols will involve 24 policemen and 12 from the Military Police Corps,” he said at the Johor police contingent headquarters.

For a start, Mokhtar said, the joint patrols would involve a ratio of one soldier to two policemen. He said they would take part in beat duties, motorcycle patrols, mobile police vehicle patrols and other duties.

NBOS, which was initiated by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak in March, is intended to reduce crime, rehabilitate prison inmates at army camps, provide household assistance, ensure rural water supply and optimise usage of vacant armed forces land for agriculture. The strategy has proven effective, especially in crime prevention and policing duties.

In the future, Mokhtar said cooperation between the armed forces and police would extend to sharing facilities and recruitment of military personnel into police ranks.

“So far, the programme of joint patrols has been carried out successfully by the Perak and Negri Sembilan police,” he said, adding that other areas of joint community policing with the armed forces were in the pipeline.

Johor Luxury Car Theft Syndicated Smashed

Via simonthongwh:

“Geng Panjang” members nabbed, nine stolen cars recovered
Posted on 28 October 2011 – 05:26am

JOHOR BAHRU (Oct 27, 2011): Police smashed a luxury car theft syndicate here following the arrest of four men and a woman aged between 23 and 37 yesterday.

The men were held in a raid at a hotel here at 1.30am while the woman was nabbed in Yong Peng at 2.50am.

“Nine cars were recovered, among them were a Honda Stream, BMW 320I, Toyota Wish, Kia Carens and Mitsubishi Colt valued at about RM650,000,” said South Johor Baharu police chief ACP Zainuddin Yaacob.

Speaking to reporters here today, Zainuddin said the luxury cars were left in several public parking lots around the city here with forged number plates to avoid detection.

Five of the stolen cars were from Singapore while the rest were locally registered.

The syndicate, known as Geng Panjang, had been active since 2001 and was believed to have recruited several new members who are still at large.

The stolen vehicles would usually be sold to members of the public at extremely low prices, as cheap as RM7,000 and below.

He requested the cooperation of public car park owners to inform the police should a car be kept for a long period of time in their parking lot.

In Alor Setar, police foiled two syndicates specialising in stealing Toyota Estima.

Kota Setar police chief ACP Adzaman Mohd Jan said the two car theft syndicates had stolen altogether 15 Toyota Estimas in their activities in Kuala Lumpur and Selangor and the cars were smuggled to a neighbouring country.

He said the success was the result of cooperation between the Kedah CID and the Bukit Aman Crime Division which began with the arrest of a 32-year-old man, who was driving a stolen Toyota Estima at KM 8.7 of the Changlun-Bukit Kayu Hitam Highway at 4.30am on Oct 14.

“Police investigation led to the recovery of another stolen Toyota Estima parked near a supermarket in Gurun.

However, the second member of the syndicate is still at large,” he told reporters, here today.

Adzaman said initial investigation found that the syndicate, operated by two men, had smuggled 11 Toyota Estimas stolen from Damansara and Wangsa Maju in Kuala Lumpur to Thailand.

According to him, two men from another syndicate, aged 31 and 34 years, were nabbed 10 days ago after police raided two houses, one in Changlun and the other in Alor Setar. Two stolen Toyota Estimas were recovered from this raid. –Bernama